Wlad to fight again in Novermber or December

[Fenster]

1. I'm saying Haye's "shit-talk" produced Wlad his most lucrative and high profile ever contest. Do you think Wlad was NOT happy about making $21 million due to his opponents brilliant promotion?

2. Tyson was a money making global phenomenon. Every corner of the world purchased a piece of him. Wlad is a nobody outside Germany/Eastern Europe so is helped by controversial characters.

3. Wlad hopes Chisora beats Haye because the fight is already sold to the public with Chisora's antics and performance against Vitali.

You need to get this into perspective - Wlad-Haye got 16.5 million viewers on German TV. Wlad-Thompson got 6 million. If you think Wlad is unhappy about these "badboy" characters boosting the interest in his fights you are mad.

Haye still didn't make the fight vs Wlad interesting or competitive, Tyson-Holyfield was big because Holyfield was a legit threat to Tyson, and I'm sure Wlad doesn't care who wins because all it means is another paycheck it's not like Haye or Chisora have a chance against Wlad.

There could have been 80 million viewers, the fact is David Haye is still a punk and nothing will change that. He talked and talked and didn't deliver or even attempt to make good on his word.

Whether Haye is a punk or not is irrelevant.

If you believe a man as intelligent as Wlad doesn't "care" whether he earns $1million or $20million well... ().

Holyfield was a 25/1 underdog against Tyson (he didn't have a chance in hell according to popular opinion). Many figures in the boxing industry were fearing for his life. It was big because it involved two great fighters, two American's in America and Tyson is one of the most famous people in history.

[El Kabong]

So by your rational if Haye wins Wlad won't make big money? And if Chisora wins he will? At this point in time there's no difference in Haye & Chisora. Dereck spit in Wlad's face I guess that is a teeny tiny little storyline, but shit man this is BOXING not the WWE and I'm telling you this whole idea (that 2 fighters from a certain little island have adopted) of "Look at what an asshole I can be" doesn't do well. Sure you can stir up people who will want to see you knocked out, but the regular boxing fans don't pay much attention to shit talking......especially when it wasn't backed up to begin with!!!

[Memphis]

So by your rational if Haye wins Wlad won't make big money? And if Chisora wins he will? At this point in time there's no difference in Haye & Chisora. Dereck spit in Wlad's face I guess that is a teeny tiny little storyline, but shit man this is BOXING not the WWE and I'm telling you this whole idea (that 2 fighters from a certain little island have adopted) of "Look at what an asshole I can be" doesn't do well. Sure you can stir up people who will want to see you knocked out, but the regular boxing fans don't pay much attention to shit talking......especially when it wasn't backed up to begin with!!!

Mate your working on the assumption that Haye, Chisora, Wlad etc etc are out to please us hard working loyal boxing fans who spend their days and nights on the forums having verbals on their behalf. They aint!

[El Kabong]

So by your rational if Haye wins Wlad won't make big money? And if Chisora wins he will? At this point in time there's no difference in Haye & Chisora. Dereck spit in Wlad's face I guess that is a teeny tiny little storyline, but shit man this is BOXING not the WWE and I'm telling you this whole idea (that 2 fighters from a certain little island have adopted) of "Look at what an asshole I can be" doesn't do well. Sure you can stir up people who will want to see you knocked out, but the regular boxing fans don't pay much attention to shit talking......especially when it wasn't backed up to begin with!!!

Mate your working on the assumption that Haye, Chisora, Wlad etc etc are out to please us hard working loyal boxing fans who spend their days and nights on the forums having verbals on their behalf. They aint!

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And no, I'm not these guys are in the BUSINESS of boxing, I know that, but you can sell fights without talking shit, it has been done before.

[Memphis]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

[El Kabong]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

Doesn't matter, Haye is British, you guys will buy anything

[Memphis]

How about you just answer the question?

[rjj tszyu]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

Doesn't matter, Haye is British, you guys will buy anything

A little harsh Lyle. Haye has sold well over here and hasn't always delivered that is a fact BUT, he has also made history for us as well becoming only the second man to hold genuine world titles at both CW and HW and believe it or not a hell of a lot of Brits actually want to see Haye beaten.

Haye understands this which is why he comes across as a big mouthed bastard. He was never like this before he got famous. At the end of the day boxing is a short career choice so I fully understand him making himself a real love him or hate him guy as they are the ones that people will pay to see. The haters pay to see him lose and his fans (ME) pay to see him destroy bums like Chisora in great fashion.

[Fenster]

making a case for selling a fight without being a cock and your first priority is to point out a typo

Did Wlad Haye sell as well as it did because of Haye's shameless promotion or in spite of it?

Doesn't matter, Haye is British, you guys will buy anything

Why did HBO drop Wlad? Haye was the ONLY opponent they were willing to show. They even filmed a "face-off" with Max Kellerman and shit.

HBO (America) had to BUY the fight. Do you think Wlad was unhappy that Haye brought that American MONEY to the table?

No fights sell better than a hero-villain situation/grudge fights. It's extremely gullible to believe Wlad is not happy about these outlandish characters bringing attention to his fights and increasing his payday.