What's next for Haye

[Dia bando]

I no what's next Haye, he makes a lot more MONEY that's what.

[Fenster]

Probably the "Wlad" Haye

The only time Haye has ever looked poor in his entire career was against men that are MUCH bigger than him.

If you're a similar size to Haye he knocks you out.

I just dont see it Fenster. The two brothers fight nothing alike. Vitali is far more reckless and flailing and should provide far more openings for Haye then the Wlad wall of jab and grab.

You and rjj tszyu may very well be right.

I'm simplifying Haye's "caution" against Wlad, Valuev and Harrison (for the first round and a half) down to him being uncomfortable with their huge size/reach advantage.

[0james0]

Haye still wants to be a model after boxing, so I'm guessing he doesn't want his face mashed.

It would be a real shame of Haye retired for good. Love him or not, he is an exciting fighter with skill in abundance.

[0james0]

Haye still wants to be a model after boxing, so I'm guessing he doesn't want his face mashed.

It would be a real shame of Haye retired for good. Love him or not, he is an exciting fighter with skill in abundance. Other than either Klitshcko, I don't think there is anyone better in the division.

Also, other than maybe a small handful of fighters, no one brings in the money quite like Haye.


Did anyone else see Warren in the ring after the fight, quite clearly saying stick with me and I'll get you the fight. Haye kept saying yeah, what ever. Then in the end agreed to discuss it later.

[Master]

Haye v Adamek would be an easy nights work for Haye.

[Rantcatrat]

Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?

Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.

Adamek's wins over Arreola and Chambers are MUCH better than Audley Harrison. Really? Frankly, Arreola and Chambers stand equal to, or better than, any win on Haye's heavyweight record.

However, with all the said, Vitali already starched Adamek, and Wladimir would hurt him badly. Like Haye, I have more interest in seeing new faces challenge the Klitschkos because Adamek and Arreola had their shot, and came up far short. I wouldn't mind seeing Haye, Adamek, and Arreola against the other top-ten fighters, like Povetkin, Pulev, Boystov, Mitchell, Jennings, each other, or Price even. It would be testament to them if they cleaned out the division, other than the Klitschkos, prior to getting another shot at the Klitschkos.

[El Kabong]

If the Klits will fight mormeck, thompson and Chisora they'll fight Haye.

Whether he deserves it or not the klits have shown they don't mind obliging undeserving opponents.

For the last time Thompson was a MANDATORY.

...and?

Their last three opponents have sucked - the fact still stands, if they fight that level of fighter then don 't be surprised if either of them fight Haye.

I wouldn't be surprised if they fought Haye, but do remember how long it took to make their first fight. And little David flat out refused to fight Vitali back then too.

I think Haye found his level and he's just short of the championship mark. Haye should go win the British title and after that maybe fight Wlad again, Vitali will retire IMO


As for Wlad and Vitali's defenses....give me a break. If there was a worthy challenger out there they would fight them

[Fenster]

Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?

Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.

Adamek's wins over Arreola and Chambers are MUCH better than Audley Harrison. Really? Frankly, Arreola and Chambers stand equal to, or better than, any win on Haye's heavyweight record.

However, with all the said, Vitali already starched Adamek, and Wladimir would hurt him badly. Like Haye, I have more interest in seeing new faces challenge the Klitschkos because Adamek and Arreola had their shot, and came up far short. I wouldn't mind seeing Haye, Adamek, and Arreola against the other top-ten fighters, like Povetkin, Pulev, Boystov, Mitchell, Jennings, each other, or Price even. It would be testament to them if they cleaned out the division, other than the Klitschkos, prior to getting another shot at the Klitschkos.

OK.. Arreola and Chambers are better than Audley, for sure.

But Arreola's best win is against a man that lost to a Haye victim. He's never beat anyone better than Haye has.

Adamek has recently been fighting Kevin McBride (who couldn't even win a British Prizefighter) Michael Grant and Vinny Maddalone.

Considering they both lost to Vitali, I don't see how they're more deserving than Haye for a Klit fight. I would much rather see Haye fight Adamek or Arreola than Vitali anyway.

[rjj tszyu]

If the Klits will fight mormeck, thompson and Chisora they'll fight Haye.

Whether he deserves it or not the klits have shown they don't mind obliging undeserving opponents.

For the last time Thompson was a MANDATORY.

...and?

Their last three opponents have sucked - the fact still stands, if they fight that level of fighter then don 't be surprised if either of them fight Haye.

I wouldn't be surprised if they fought Haye, but do remember how long it took to make their first fight. And little David flat out refused to fight Vitali back then too.

I think Haye found his level and he's just short of the championship mark. Haye should go win the British title and after that maybe fight Wlad again, Vitali will retire IMO


As for Wlad and Vitali's defenses....give me a break. If there was a worthy challenger out there they would fight them

I think Haye see's the clear decline in Vitali and he really fancies his chances with him. I also think Vitali is too proud to walk away after Haye did such a better job on Chisora and then started the whole "Vitali won't dare fight me now" after the fight. In fact I see Charr losing his chance to haye like Chisora did.

In an ideal world I'd like Haye to fight Fury first and shut his stupid mouth. I truly hate that man and I cannot wait to see him sparked out. Then again Fury would just run scared when push came to shove just like he did when Price was going to spark him.

[erics44]

i really dont see adamek or areola having much to worry haye

i dont know why people are so insitent that haye has to fight one of those two to prove his worth

chisora posed more of a problem because of his punch resistence

[TitoFan]

Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?

Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.

Yes... and Haye was stopped by Wlad. What's your point?

My point is, Arreola and Adamek have been heavies a lot longer than Haye, who waltzed in and fought: "Circus Man" Valuev, John Ruiz (no explanations needed), and Audley Harrison (ditto). Somehow, that "warranted" a shot at Wlad, one that he proceeded to throw in the garbage can with his lack of effort.

Arreola and Adamek are proven quantities that would actually fight Wlad, not run for 12 rounds and blame their big toe or something ridiculous like that. Arreola has quality wins against people like Chazz Witherspoon (23-0 at the time), and Jameel McCline. Adamek beat Arreola, plus Michael Grant and Eddie Chambers. In other words, they've paid their dues. Haye (and you) thinks that his mouth alone warrants him shots at world titles at heavyweight. He's wrong.

But this is all academic. Reports are that Arreola will get the next shot at Wlad, who Haye doesn't want to see anyway. Haye's only hope of getting a Klitschko is somehow landing a fight with Vitali.... and that's hoping the public gets a collective case of amnesia and forgets what happened the last time Haye stepped into a ring with a Klitschko.

[Diane]

What's next for Haye? Hopefully retirement.

[Fenster]

Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?

Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.

Yes... and Haye was stopped by Wlad. What's your point?

My point is, Arreola and Adamek have been heavies a lot longer than Haye, who waltzed in and fought: "Circus Man" Valuev, John Ruiz (no explanations needed), and Audley Harrison (ditto). Somehow, that "warranted" a shot at Wlad, one that he proceeded to throw in the garbage can with his lack of effort.

Arreola and Adamek are proven quantities that would actually fight Wlad, not run for 12 rounds and blame their big toe or something ridiculous like that. Arreola has quality wins against people like Chazz Witherspoon (23-0 at the time), and Jameel McCline. Adamek beat Arreola, plus Michael Grant and Eddie Chambers. In other words, they've paid their dues. Haye (and you) thinks that his mouth alone warrants him shots at world titles at heavyweight. He's wrong.

But this is all academic. Reports are that Arreola will get the next shot at Wlad, who Haye doesn't want to see anyway. Haye's only hope of getting a Klitschko is somehow landing a fight with Vitali.... and that's hoping the public gets a collective case of amnesia and forgets what happened the last time Haye stepped into a ring with a Klitschko.

Please correct that before I continue reading? Thanks.

[TitoFan]

Arreola and Adamek are both more deserving for a shot. But why doesn't Haye get himself invited to the elimination tournament the IBF is pushing?

Why are Arreola and Adamek more deserving? They've both already been stopped by Vitali. Both have never won a "world" title.

In fact, who the hell have they beat at heavyweight that puts them in front of Haye? Audley Harrison is about the level of their best wins.

Yes... and Haye was HUMILIATED by Wlad. What's your point?

My point is, Arreola and Adamek have been heavies a lot longer than Haye, who waltzed in and fought: "Circus Man" Valuev, John Ruiz (no explanations needed), and Audley Harrison (ditto). Somehow, that "warranted" a shot at Wlad, one that he proceeded to throw in the garbage can with his lack of effort.

Arreola and Adamek are proven quantities that would actually fight Wlad, not run for 12 rounds and blame their big toe or something ridiculous like that. Arreola has quality wins against people like Chazz Witherspoon (23-0 at the time), and Jameel McCline. Adamek beat Arreola, plus Michael Grant and Eddie Chambers. In other words, they've paid their dues. Haye (and you) thinks that his mouth alone warrants him shots at world titles at heavyweight. He's wrong.

But this is all academic. Reports are that Arreola will get the next shot at Wlad, who Haye doesn't want to see anyway. Haye's only hope of getting a Klitschko is somehow landing a fight with Vitali.... and that's hoping the public gets a collective case of amnesia and forgets what happened the last time Haye stepped into a ring with a Klitschko.

Please correct that before I continue reading? Thanks.

You're right. It's much more correct now...... thank you.

[TitoFan]

I'd probably move this thread too. It's about to get ugly.