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    Default Re: What would change about boxing?

    The very foundation of judge’s from how they are picked or chosen to where they sit. Promoters should not even know who the judges are let alone be a factor along with broadcasters and sanctioning bodies in who fills the seat.

    You?

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    In an ideal world we would have one "world wide" governing body. How would we get there? God knows!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    In an ideal world we would have one "world wide" governing body. How would we get there? God knows!
    Yup that's another must that just wont happen. For instance the Wbc has already told Garcia that he must give up one belt or the other. I don't even think I will ever see true unification again in my lifetime.

    I'd also bring back 15 rounds for title fights.

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    Yeah, the one or maximum, two organisations would be my change. Two only because it's always awesome to see a unification bout. Best vs Best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    In an ideal world we would have one "world wide" governing body. How would we get there? God knows!
    Yup that's another must that just wont happen. For instance the Wbc has already told Garcia that he must give up one belt or the other. I don't even think I will ever see true unification again in my lifetime.

    I'd also bring back 15 rounds for title fights.

    Is that right? Fucking disgusting behaviour if they have said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    In an ideal world we would have one "world wide" governing body. How would we get there? God knows!
    Yup that's another must that just wont happen. For instance the Wbc has already told Garcia that he must give up one belt or the other. I don't even think I will ever see true unification again in my lifetime.

    I'd also bring back 15 rounds for title fights.

    Is that right? Fucking disgusting behaviour if they have said that.
    I'm afraid so:


    by David P. Greisman

    The winner of this Saturday’s junior-welterweight unification bout between Amir Khan and Danny Garcia will have to vacate one of his two world titles, according to World Boxing Council President José Sulaimán.

    Khan-Garcia will be for the WBC and WBA belts, though the unification won’t last for long.

    That’s because the World Boxing Council hasn’t recently allowed for its world title to remain unified with other sanctioning body belts, though.

    Just last month, 105-pound titleholder Kazuto Ioka defeated Akira Yaegashi, adding Yaegashi’s WBA title to his own WBC belt. Ioka and Yaegashi had been told beforehand that the winner would need to relinquish one of the titles. Ioka opted to keep the WBA belt and ditch the WBC.

    And in another noteworthy instance three years ago, Timothy Bradley was told he’d have to pick between his WBC title and the WBO belt he’d just won from Kendall Holt. Bradley held onto the WBO belt and vacated the WBC.

    The aforementioned bouts came with the WBC’s blessing in advance. The news of another belt other than their own being at stake for this weekend’s HBO headliner in Las Vegas was, well, news to the WBC’s leadership.

    “It is a real surprise to know … that the WBA title is involved,” Sulaimán told BoxingScene.com via email Thursday night. “The WBC will accept only the WBC. Whoever doesn’t want it, the title is vacant.”

    Garcia is the WBC’s titleholder, having won that vacant belt in March by defeating Erik Morales. The fight between Khan and Garcia has been marketed as being solely for the WBC belt.

    Earlier this week, however, the World Boxing Association made official what had previously been rumored — the WBA returned its junior welterweight title to Khan, who had lost that belt against Lamont Peterson in December. Peterson tested positive for synthetic testosterone ahead of a since-canceled May rematch with Khan.

    Peterson’s team admitted to using the substance for what it said was medical purposes ahead of the first Khan clash, which apparently was enough reason for the WBA to take the title from Peterson and give it back to Khan. The WBA also lists Marcos Maidana as its “regular” 140-pound titleholder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    In an ideal world we would have one "world wide" governing body. How would we get there? God knows!
    Yup that's another must that just wont happen. For instance the Wbc has already told Garcia that he must give up one belt or the other. I don't even think I will ever see true unification again in my lifetime.

    I'd also bring back 15 rounds for title fights.

    Is that right? Fucking disgusting behaviour if they have said that.
    I'm afraid so:


    by David P. Greisman

    The winner of this Saturday’s junior-welterweight unification bout between Amir Khan and Danny Garcia will have to vacate one of his two world titles, according to World Boxing Council President José Sulaimán.

    Khan-Garcia will be for the WBC and WBA belts, though the unification won’t last for long.

    That’s because the World Boxing Council hasn’t recently allowed for its world title to remain unified with other sanctioning body belts, though.

    Just last month, 105-pound titleholder Kazuto Ioka defeated Akira Yaegashi, adding Yaegashi’s WBA title to his own WBC belt. Ioka and Yaegashi had been told beforehand that the winner would need to relinquish one of the titles. Ioka opted to keep the WBA belt and ditch the WBC.

    And in another noteworthy instance three years ago, Timothy Bradley was told he’d have to pick between his WBC title and the WBO belt he’d just won from Kendall Holt. Bradley held onto the WBO belt and vacated the WBC.

    The aforementioned bouts came with the WBC’s blessing in advance. The news of another belt other than their own being at stake for this weekend’s HBO headliner in Las Vegas was, well, news to the WBC’s leadership.

    “It is a real surprise to know … that the WBA title is involved,” Sulaimán told BoxingScene.com via email Thursday night. “The WBC will accept only the WBC. Whoever doesn’t want it, the title is vacant.”

    Garcia is the WBC’s titleholder, having won that vacant belt in March by defeating Erik Morales. The fight between Khan and Garcia has been marketed as being solely for the WBC belt.

    Earlier this week, however, the World Boxing Association made official what had previously been rumored — the WBA returned its junior welterweight title to Khan, who had lost that belt against Lamont Peterson in December. Peterson tested positive for synthetic testosterone ahead of a since-canceled May rematch with Khan.

    Peterson’s team admitted to using the substance for what it said was medical purposes ahead of the first Khan clash, which apparently was enough reason for the WBA to take the title from Peterson and give it back to Khan. The WBA also lists Marcos Maidana as its “regular” 140-pound titleholder.
    The WBC should be eradicated from Boxing. Decisions like this is what makes boxing so hard to keep up with for the casual fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    In an ideal world we would have one "world wide" governing body. How would we get there? God knows!
    Yup that's another must that just wont happen. For instance the Wbc has already told Garcia that he must give up one belt or the other. I don't even think I will ever see true unification again in my lifetime.

    I'd also bring back 15 rounds for title fights.

    Is that right? Fucking disgusting behaviour if they have said that.
    I'm afraid so:


    by David P. Greisman

    The winner of this Saturday’s junior-welterweight unification bout between Amir Khan and Danny Garcia will have to vacate one of his two world titles, according to World Boxing Council President José Sulaimán.

    Khan-Garcia will be for the WBC and WBA belts, though the unification won’t last for long.

    That’s because the World Boxing Council hasn’t recently allowed for its world title to remain unified with other sanctioning body belts, though.

    Just last month, 105-pound titleholder Kazuto Ioka defeated Akira Yaegashi, adding Yaegashi’s WBA title to his own WBC belt. Ioka and Yaegashi had been told beforehand that the winner would need to relinquish one of the titles. Ioka opted to keep the WBA belt and ditch the WBC.

    And in another noteworthy instance three years ago, Timothy Bradley was told he’d have to pick between his WBC title and the WBO belt he’d just won from Kendall Holt. Bradley held onto the WBO belt and vacated the WBC.

    The aforementioned bouts came with the WBC’s blessing in advance. The news of another belt other than their own being at stake for this weekend’s HBO headliner in Las Vegas was, well, news to the WBC’s leadership.

    “It is a real surprise to know … that the WBA title is involved,” Sulaimán told BoxingScene.com via email Thursday night. “The WBC will accept only the WBC. Whoever doesn’t want it, the title is vacant.”

    Garcia is the WBC’s titleholder, having won that vacant belt in March by defeating Erik Morales. The fight between Khan and Garcia has been marketed as being solely for the WBC belt.

    Earlier this week, however, the World Boxing Association made official what had previously been rumored — the WBA returned its junior welterweight title to Khan, who had lost that belt against Lamont Peterson in December. Peterson tested positive for synthetic testosterone ahead of a since-canceled May rematch with Khan.

    Peterson’s team admitted to using the substance for what it said was medical purposes ahead of the first Khan clash, which apparently was enough reason for the WBA to take the title from Peterson and give it back to Khan. The WBA also lists Marcos Maidana as its “regular” 140-pound titleholder.
    The WBC should be eradicated from Boxing. Decisions like this is what makes boxing so hard to keep up with for the casual fan.


    I'm not entirely sure how these sanctioning bodies run things and I could be wrong here but the only reason I can think of for this is that if a fighter holds for example WBA and WBC titles and has to fight a WBA mandatory then surely that fighter will only have to pay a WBA sanctioning fee, not WBC. If the WBC force a fighter to hold only their belt then every time they fight they pay the WBC a sanction fee. Does that make sense?

    and the only reason I can see that a fighter would accept to do this is that the WBC is seen as the most prestigious to hold thus making more money when selling the fight.

    I'm sure someone knows better than me on this forum.

    I have said before that titles are now meaningless to me when it comes to watching fights. I know who the good fighters are and I know who I want to watch and I know a good match up when I see one. Doesn't help the casual fan though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    The very foundation of judge’s from how they are picked or chosen to where they sit. Promoters should not even know who the judges are let alone be a factor along with broadcasters and sanctioning bodies in who fills the seat.

    You?
    The first idea is the best idea this time. Disconnect the judges from the promoters, fighters, sanctioning bodies and any other person with an interest (monetary) in the fight. Give them their own room with the same feed the fans get, maybe the detachment will deep their emotions in check. There is a lot happening around the ring during a fight and I can understand a judge being distracted. Choose the judges from a pool. Some type of tiered pool with the most experienced judges in the top tier. There is no way you would want them to hear the announcers because they always put their own slant on the fight. Any ideas? Come on all y'all, the man has an outstanding idea here, let's help him out!

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