HW prospects..

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

begs the question "If the Cold War was still going, who would be heavyweight champion and how good would they be?"

It also beg's the question 'what if the eastern europeans had always fought pro?' imagine the fighters (with the right management etc) we have missed out on! The americans would not have been so dominant...

-Aleksandr Miroshnichenko stopped lennox lewis as an amateur. Also beat riddick bowe up (flooring him twice!).
-Igor vygotsky twice defeated the great cuban teofilio stevenson. Also stopped tony tubbs and mitch green etc.

One of the best came in the form of a potential challenger to Joe Louis, who could use all he could get in al honesty!

That was legendary Soviet Korolev Nikolai Federovich, Born February 14th 1917 and died February 12th 1974. He was a 4 -time Absolute Soviet Champion (1936,1937,1944, 1945), a 9 time Champion of the USSR (1936-1939,1945-1949) and Champion of the 1937 Socialist Olympics in Antwerp (The Russian alternative to the boycotted 1936 games in Berlin hosted by Nazi Germany), but he never got to go pro to really prove his stuff settling for a 110-14-2 record as a Russian hero.

See? What if.....

didnt read

Roughly translated: 'I am actually quite stupid!'

[Mega]

begs the question "If the Cold War was still going, who would be heavyweight champion and how good would they be?"

It also beg's the question 'what if the eastern europeans had always fought pro?' imagine the fighters (with the right management etc) we have missed out on! The americans would not have been so dominant...

-Aleksandr Miroshnichenko stopped lennox lewis as an amateur. Also beat riddick bowe up (flooring him twice!).
-Igor vygotsky twice defeated the great cuban teofilio stevenson. Also stopped tony tubbs and mitch green etc.

One of the best came in the form of a potential challenger to Joe Louis, who could use all he could get in al honesty!

That was legendary Soviet Korolev Nikolai Federovich, Born February 14th 1917 and died February 12th 1974. He was a 4 -time Absolute Soviet Champion (1936,1937,1944, 1945), a 9 time Champion of the USSR (1936-1939,1945-1949) and Champion of the 1937 Socialist Olympics in Antwerp (The Russian alternative to the boycotted 1936 games in Berlin hosted by Nazi Germany), but he never got to go pro to really prove his stuff settling for a 110-14-2 record as a Russian hero.

See? What if.....

didnt read

Roughly translated: 'I am actually quite stupid!'

cool retort bro!

[El Kabong]

Having great amateurs doesn't translate into having great pros because there is a difference in styles, but also the age differences aren't so drastic. Americans turn pro younger, get more experience as pros so you bring up good names like Savon and Stevenson and they were great amateurs, but if they fought pros their own age I'm not so certain they would have been that great. Look at Odlanier Solis, and look at the failed fighters from the former Soviet states....they put out some duds as well.

George Foreman had been boxing for only 1 year when he won Gold in 1968 and he hammered the absolute dog crap out of Ionas Chepulis. So it wouldn't be all sunshine and lollipops for the Commie's in the Pro ranks.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

George Foreman had been boxing for only 1 year when he won Gold in 1968 and he hammered the absolute dog crap out of Ionas Chepulis. So it wouldn't be all sunshine and lollipops for the Commie's in the Pro ranks.

Foreman won gold over a 31 year old! That's ancient in amateur terms! And frazier only narrowly defeated a 30 yr old amateur too...

Also the soviets only started competing in the games in the mid 50's.

[El Kabong]

George Foreman had been boxing for only 1 year when he won Gold in 1968 and he hammered the absolute dog crap out of Ionas Chepulis. So it wouldn't be all sunshine and lollipops for the Commie's in the Pro ranks.

Foreman won gold over a 31 year old! That's ancient in amateur terms! And frazier only narrowly defeated a 30 yr old amateur too...

Also the soviets only started competing in the games in the mid 50's.

My point exactly because Foreman & Frazier were just kids at the time and they were fighting full grown men.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

George Foreman had been boxing for only 1 year when he won Gold in 1968 and he hammered the absolute dog crap out of Ionas Chepulis. So it wouldn't be all sunshine and lollipops for the Commie's in the Pro ranks.

Foreman won gold over a 31 year old! That's ancient in amateur terms! And frazier only narrowly defeated a 30 yr old amateur too...

Also the soviets only started competing in the games in the mid 50's.

My point exactly because Foreman & Frazier were just kids at the time and they were fighting full grown men.

The amateurs are a young man's game. What a shame these men could not turn pro rather than fighting youngsters well into there 30's...

Times have changed now though.

[TigerFan]

Here's Andy Ruiz Jr's last fight. Like I said he's one of those quick fisted chubby guys

What do you guys think?