The 2012 London Olympic Games

[Beanz]

I posted 3 times in error because I was at a Jazz and Blues festival on Plymouth's historic barbican (from whence the Pilgrim fathers departed for the U S of A) and the signal was dodgy on my phone.

[Gandalf]

We have noone to blame but ourselves for the cycling. If you give away the first 4 rounds you are in trouble. Unfortunately we allowed the leading pack to get away. You have to dictate on your own terms, you cannot blame anyone else.

I'm not impressed at the London dictators arresting scores of cyclist protesters either. The Olympics is a pretty much a corporate exercise veiled as sports. Anyone who dissents at the machine is automatically locked up. It's not cool and as a protest I will go back out to the pub and ignore it all. All you can do is ignore these things. I was only rebelling against the opening ceremony, but I think that should be expanded upon.

Patriotism is to do what you think is right. I would agree with the entire football team booing their own national anthem. That to me is true patriotism. To say no to the despot rulers.

[ryanman]

We have noone to blame but ourselves for the cycling. If you give away the first 4 rounds you are in trouble. Unfortunately we allowed the leading pack to get away. You have to dictate on your own terms, you cannot blame anyone else.

I'm not impressed at the London dictators arresting scores of cyclist protesters either. The Olympics is a pretty much a corporate exercise veiled as sports. Anyone who dissents at the machine is automatically locked up. It's not cool and as a protest I will go back out to the pub and ignore it all. All you can do is ignore these things. I was only rebelling against the opening ceremony, but I think that should be expanded upon.

Patriotism is to do what you think is right. I would agree with the entire football team booing their own national anthem. That to me is true patriotism. To say no to the despot rulers.

It doesn't really work like that in cycling Miles.
Breakaway attempts happen all the time. You simply cannot, over 250km, pull every one back in straight away. You would be nowhere pretty quickly if you expended that much energy. What happens is when one breakaway becomes a real threat the peleton (the main pack) works together to bring it back. One 4 man team cannot do that alone - It is impossible. This is what occurs in every single road race and every stage of the grand tours. But, because of the size of the breakaway, and the potency of the British team, no other members of the peleton did any work whatsoever to bring the breakaway back. Therefore Britain (IE Cavendish) had no chance. The rest of the pack refused to work. In cycling that is unacceptable. The teams that had a man in the breakaway obviously had a clear reason to not help the peleton but those that didn't refused to help so that they could save their energy for the sprint, thinking that GB would do all the work. But it was impossibe and therefore they all missed out too.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

We have noone to blame but ourselves for the cycling. If you give away the first 4 rounds you are in trouble. Unfortunately we allowed the leading pack to get away. You have to dictate on your own terms, you cannot blame anyone else.

I'm not impressed at the London dictators arresting scores of cyclist protesters either. The Olympics is a pretty much a corporate exercise veiled as sports. Anyone who dissents at the machine is automatically locked up. It's not cool and as a protest I will go back out to the pub and ignore it all. All you can do is ignore these things. I was only rebelling against the opening ceremony, but I think that should be expanded upon.

Patriotism is to do what you think is right. I would agree with the entire football team booing their own national anthem. That to me is true patriotism. To say no to the despot rulers.

It doesn't really work like that in cycling Miles.
Breakaway attempts happen all the time. You simply cannot, over 250km, pull every one back in straight away. You would be nowhere pretty quickly if you expended that much energy. What happens is when one breakaway becomes a real threat the peleton (the main pack) works together to bring it back. One 4 man team cannot do that alone - It is impossible. This is what occurs in every single road race and every stage of the grand tours. But, because of the size of the breakaway, and the potency of the British team, no other members of the peleton did any work whatsoever to bring the breakaway back. Therefore Britain (IE Cavendish) had no chance. The rest of the pack refused to work. In cycling that is unacceptable. The teams that had a man in the breakaway obviously had a clear reason to not help the peleton but those that didn't refused to help so that they could save their energy for the sprint, thinking that GB would do all the work. But it was impossibe and therefore they all missed out too.

and serves em right

[ryanman]

We have noone to blame but ourselves for the cycling. If you give away the first 4 rounds you are in trouble. Unfortunately we allowed the leading pack to get away. You have to dictate on your own terms, you cannot blame anyone else.

I'm not impressed at the London dictators arresting scores of cyclist protesters either. The Olympics is a pretty much a corporate exercise veiled as sports. Anyone who dissents at the machine is automatically locked up. It's not cool and as a protest I will go back out to the pub and ignore it all. All you can do is ignore these things. I was only rebelling against the opening ceremony, but I think that should be expanded upon.

Patriotism is to do what you think is right. I would agree with the entire football team booing their own national anthem. That to me is true patriotism. To say no to the despot rulers.

It doesn't really work like that in cycling Miles.
Breakaway attempts happen all the time. You simply cannot, over 250km, pull every one back in straight away. You would be nowhere pretty quickly if you expended that much energy. What happens is when one breakaway becomes a real threat the peleton (the main pack) works together to bring it back. One 4 man team cannot do that alone - It is impossible. This is what occurs in every single road race and every stage of the grand tours. But, because of the size of the breakaway, and the potency of the British team, no other members of the peleton did any work whatsoever to bring the breakaway back. Therefore Britain (IE Cavendish) had no chance. The rest of the pack refused to work. In cycling that is unacceptable. The teams that had a man in the breakaway obviously had a clear reason to not help the peleton but those that didn't refused to help so that they could save their energy for the sprint, thinking that GB would do all the work. But it was impossibe and therefore they all missed out too.

and serves em right

Indeed.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

anyone reckon that 16 year old chinese girl is on drugs?

[ryanman]

The thought did pop into my head.

Now Claire Balding just hinted at it too.

BIG personal best - But she is only 16.