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Riddick Bowe wouldn't put up a hard fight vs either brother. He never fought a power puncher his entire career.
Mike Tyson even in 1986 is debateable especially when discussing a Vitali vs Tyson matchup...maybe Mike could get to Wlad early on and follow up, but still it's a big ask.
Young Cassius Clay got damn near KO'd by Henry Cooper. He moved like lightning vs guys like Liston & Cleveland Williams, but the Klitschkos are a touch more athletic than those guys, but erroneous, I will concede the point vs Ali & vs Holmes (though I fully think Vitali & Wlad beat Holmes).
I think the most difficult fighter for either brother to beat is Evander Holyfield just because he's tough for everybody to beat. Evander was awkward to fight especially for an orthodox fighter with such conventional attribute, but he had workrate, solid defense, a head hard as iron, and the heart of a champion.
A younger Shannon Briggs would have been dangerous on HIS day, but then you're just judging potential. I think Shannon Briggs would hammer the shit out of Riddick Bowe.....Bowe is one of the more overrated fighters of all time, given his era Bowe fought NOBODY! No Tyson, no Lewis, no Mercer, no Ruddock, no Rahman, no Tua, NOBODY.
Corrie Sanders on his day is tough for anyone to beat, a big awkward southpaw with loads of power.
George Foreman of course deserves a mention at least because he was strong as an ox and had tremendous power.
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When you have to preface a fighter with.. the "X" who beat "Y"... that in itself speaks volumes. It's not the same as talking about a fighter's prime, which all fighters begin and end.
I watched prime Bowe put in an outstanding effort against Holyfield... but also watched prime Bowe put in several pitiful efforts.
If there was a trophy for "doing the least with the most".... Riddick Bowe would win hands down.
I have always the feeling the 'Klitschko era Hate' stems from a fear that the Klitschkos might have beaten one's own hero.
The T.S sounds quite threatened by the klitschkos imo.
Klitschko is better than any past champ, better than me.
-George foreman.
-People say they are bad fighters, they are not bad fighters; they are great fighters. They are not that exciting, but they are great fighters, they keep winning,”
- Mike Tyson in a recent interview.
-I like the Klitschko boys, I think they’re in a class of their own.
-Gerry cooney.
They deserve there props.
Stop hating.
He didn't even ATTEMPT to fight Lennox Lewis. Golota thrashed Bowe twice but he got DQ'd both times. If Golota looked that good vs Bowe how do you think Wlad would have looked vs him?
Riddick Bowe fought no punchers at all. His record outside of Holyfield, Golota, & Dokes is completely devoid of any meaningful names. You would imagine in 1990-1995 he would have been able to find someone worthwhile to fight. Hell I think Frank Bruno would have given Bowe fits.
People like Tyson and Fraiser would have a great chance against them. They dont like close up fighters who have a goos engine. Thats why Chisora done ok against Vitali. He has the attacking clkose up style but not much of an engine. He does not hit that hard either.
ı am sure that ıf Rocky Marcıano ever had the chance---fıghtıng one of the Klıtschkos and beıng sadly outweıghed by 50 pounds and sadly outreached by about 15 ınches-----to land a sıngle shot wıth hıs full torque behınd ıt, that eıther Klıtschko brother would be wrıthıng on the canvass ın paın CONVULSING ON THE FLOOR LIKE AN INFANTILE RETARD. (Thanks, İron Mike)
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Lennox already stopped Vitali in 6... Wlad would have been KO'd in 2.
Bowe would have KO'd Wlad in 3... Vitali would have quit in 9.
1986 Tyson would have KO'd Wlad in 1... Vitali would have quit in 5.
Larry Holmes and Cassius Clay would have both been KO'd by either Klit.
Fact.
3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
Riddick Bowe is not a great champion, he didn't face the best competition, he never fought a puncher, Lennox flattened him in the amateurs and would have done so again in the pros and Wlad would have stopped Bowe in 8 and Vitali (prime for prime) would have stopped Bowe in 4. The guy wasn't hard to hit and for such a big guy didn't have an amazing amount of power. Post Prison Mike Tyson would have beaten Bowe, Michael Moorer may have beaten Bowe, George Foreman would have beaten Bowe. Riddick Bowe is one of the most overrated fighters of all time.
Larry Holmes got knocked down by lesser fighters than either of the brothers and although I keep reading the word PRIME bandied about here and there people still bring up the Klitschko brothers' losses....of which maybe 1 occurred during a Prime and that was Vitali's loss to Lewis due to a cut with Vitali up on all cards.
Lennox lewis would have lost to ALexander Miroshenko (who was the inspiration for Ivan Drago in the rocky movie) He stopped Lennox Lewis and was robbed vs Riddick Bowe in the amateurs, he put bowe down twice!! Had alex had the correct guidance and management and had truly dedicated himself to the pro's he would have been a great pro fighter aswell as a great amateur! As for lewis vs either klitschko, vitali proved he was lennox's equal that night on 11 days notice, that fight left more questions unanswered than answered, cuts or no cuts...it should by rights have gone to the cards too!! As for Wlad vs lewis.....that would not depend on which lewis showed up as some like to say, it would depend on which corner manny steward chose to sit in....true story! Seriously if we are to judge vitali on his dodgy loss to lennox on short notice then lets judge prime/prepared lewis on his 2nd round KO loss to featherfist oliver mcall LOL! Vitali owned gomez and norris who both outboxed mcall....Lennox already stopped Vitali in 6... Wlad would have been KO'd in 2.
Bowe would have KO'd Wlad in 3... Vitali would have quit in 9.
1986 Tyson would have KO'd Wlad in 1... Vitali would have quit in 5.
Larry Holmes and Cassius Clay would have both been KO'd by either Klit.
Fact.
Riddick bowe got his arse handed to him twice vs a poor mans klitschko, i think its clear bowe doesn't fare well against that particular type of fighter! They are not a 205lb holyfield and beside's he was outboxed by tony fatass tubbs and turned into a blob himself post golota....alex and golota spanked bowe! Alex and bowe went 1-1 with each other as amatuers, he was robbed of 2-0!
In fact thinking about it imagine the success the greats of recent years would have had if Felix savon (a 3x olympic gold winner and 6x world amateur champ) or Teofilio stevenson (a 3x olympic gold winner and 3x amateur champ) had fought pro!!!
Tyson maybe beats a younger wlad (the one with stamina, discipline and defene issues) but not the linear champ of the past few years, tyson often struggled with tall rangy fighters, and the klitschkos are elite they are not 220lb mitch green or tony tucker...and iron chinned vitali who is the least intimidated fighter in history would frustrate the 5'11" tyson to the point where iron mike does something insane culminating in vitali throwing him out of the ring or vitali just beats him up! In fact tyson was lucky the great Igor Vysotsky (who beat the great teofilio stevenson twice) and a host of other names like tony tubbs, mitch green etc was not fighting in the pros.....
As for clay/ali...80% of his record are fighters under 200lbs, he never came close to fighting elite level superheavyweights like the klitschkos...foreman was the same size as adamek ffs!
Many amerians would not have had it so easy had the iron curtain been never been there, joe louis had a nemesis in the great nickolai (the champ who couldn't fight joe louis) korolev:
4 time Absolute Soviet Champion (1936,1937,1944, 1945)
9 time Champion of the USSR (1936-1939,1945-1949)
Champion of the Socialist Olympics in Antwerp (1937)
Holmes would give either man a tough night, however he struggled time and time again with B level fighters and was put down numerous times by sub 200lb fighters!
Last edited by THE PHILOSOPHER; 08-06-2012 at 05:53 PM.
ı was cool clıckıng up tıl I read you thınk Alı and Holmes would lose to the sıssy quıtter brothers
Oh what do you base that remark you thick headed dope? The fact Vitali quit 1 fight waaaaay long ago in a galaxy far far away? You fuck up your shoulder and see how well you cope with it just in everyday life much less in a fucking boxing match. Your penchant for posting stupid shit never ceases to amaze me.
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