So much for USA boxing

[denilson200]

Comparing amateur boxing to pro boxing is like comparing MMA to Kung Fu or Snooker to Pool. It’s two completely (Though similar) different sports.

Maybe society has changed now and the black kids that dominated the USA amateur scene back in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s have more options now.

I don’t know the answer but remember the USA amateur boxing still does top the all time medal list and when you consider that they have stunk the place out for the past 3 or 4 Olympics that just shows how strong the USA Olympic boxing team previously were.

[El Kabong]

The handling of the amateurs has been piss poor, we used a trainer that couldn't sit next to the ring. The good news is now that we know there's a problem and it's this drastic then steps will be taken to remedy the situation.

[Memphis]

I liked Claressa Shields. She's got it.

[Andre]

I liked Claressa Shields. She's got it.

Ah, I just read the thread backwards.

Yeah, she may win this, have to be odds on.

[Freedom]

The excuse most often given is "they're all in the NBA or NFL"

Are all the American potential medal winners boxers (like Michael Carbajal, Ricardo Williams, Floyd Mayweather, Oscar de la Hoya, Terrance Cauthen, Kenneth Gould, Romallis Ellis, Clarence Vinson, and Kennedy McKinney were in the past) in the NFL and NBA?

Ireland's John Joe Nevin (bantamweight), Michael Conlan (flyweight) and Paddy Barnes (light flyweight) will win medals.

Are potential light flyweight Olympic medal winners like Michael Carbajal in the NBA and NFL?

Or are there talented boxers from other countries?

Americans like Teddy Atlas should be good sports and give boxers in other countries the respect they've earned, instead of being sore losers and whining & making excuses.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

The excuse most often given is "they're all in the NBA or NFL"

Are all the American potential medal winners boxers (like Michael Carbajal, Ricardo Williams, Floyd Mayweather, Oscar de la Hoya, Terrance Cauthen, Kenneth Gould, Romallis Ellis, Clarence Vinson, and Kennedy McKinney were in the past) in the NFL and NBA?

Ireland's John Joe Nevin (bantamweight), Michael Conlan (flyweight) and Paddy Barnes (light flyweight) will win medals.

Are potential light flyweight Olympic medal winners like Michael Carbajal in the NBA and NFL?

Or are there talented boxers from other countries?

Americans like Teddy Atlas should be good sports and give boxers in other countries the respect they've earned, instead of being sore losers and whining & making excuses.

How have boxers from other countries been disrespected?

Most of the best boxers in the world are from abroad. Get off your high horse and stop pandering.

[El Kabong]

It's not about disrespecting other countries, it's about addressing the issues with our amateur system. The Irish have fuck all to do with the United States Olympic Boxing team. The Irish won because they have good boxers who were taught & trained properly and not just thrown together and without a trainer in their corner during their bouts.

The NFL & NBA have been around forever and the majority of elite boxers wouldn't do a damn thing in either sport. Joe Frazier was one of the most unathletic boxers EVER but he was trained by Eddie Futch and he knew what the hell to do inside the ring....right now our guys don't know that, they don't get it.

We need a complete overhaul of our amateur boxing program, it's piss poor. It's not ONLY that other countries produce solid amateur fighters 9they do, there's no denying it) but our amateur program has slipped off considerably

[Andre]

The excuse most often given is "they're all in the NBA or NFL"

Are all the American potential medal winners boxers (like Michael Carbajal, Ricardo Williams, Floyd Mayweather, Oscar de la Hoya, Terrance Cauthen, Kenneth Gould, Romallis Ellis, Clarence Vinson, and Kennedy McKinney were in the past) in the NFL and NBA?

Ireland's John Joe Nevin (bantamweight), Michael Conlan (flyweight) and Paddy Barnes (light flyweight) will win medals.

Are potential light flyweight Olympic medal winners like Michael Carbajal in the NBA and NFL?

Or are there talented boxers from other countries?

Americans like Teddy Atlas should be good sports and give boxers in other countries the respect they've earned, instead of being sore losers and whining & making excuses.

You get what you put in.You are right in that.
Its down to the athlete at the end of the day, you are either going to do the job cause you did the prep or you going to be crying or learning from it.

That goes for the whole team and all the backing too, but a real champ could still go out naked on their own and want it so much they take it, we saw that last night one really dug deep and just wasnt going to lose against a world champion the effort was outstanding you could visually see him taking it there by will.

Like Australia in the swimming this new generation thought we had the golden goose we just got the golden beaches the gooses were all at home resting on their lorals while the press all pumped up their bike tyres for them.

Haha they all lost, now they'll either be full of excuses when they get home or they will reform and get out there and work harder .

[Dia bando]

To win you have to put in, money that is your armature boxer today has to train full time, you put the money and time into talented boxers. You get Champions , not rocket science it's worked for team GB,
just by copying what other successful , Country's have done, you learn by following others.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

The handling of the amateurs has been piss poor, we used a trainer that couldn't sit next to the ring. The good news is now that we know there's a problem and it's this drastic then steps will be taken to remedy the situation.

Exactly. Here it is in a nut shell... They sequester these guys in a camp with trainers that have no idea what their styles are to train. These kids should be allowed to train with the people that lead them through the eliminators; the guys they’ve been with their whole lives.
That… and the fact that the scoring is atrocious.
Regardless, the US team fought like shit.

[Andre]

The US has a future champ in Clarissa Shields at 17 she has energy to burn in the ring and shes got some counter moves and good chin, worth checking her out when she fights for gold tomorrow.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Maybe society has changed now and the black kids that dominated the USA amateur scene back in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s have more options now.

Dominated the USA amateur scene, not the world!!!!!

There options are just as good, in fact it is easier to get into boxing nowadays than ever.