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    could be worse. WBO once elevated a dead man in the rankings!!!

    Time to stop giving creedence to the belts. They mean nothing.

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    So being on peds is not an offense anymore? Cool. Way to go out the drain, boxing reputation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    So being on peds is not an offense anymore? Cool. Way to go out the drain, boxing reputation
    The whole point is that they were not performance "enhancing," they were performance "normalizing."

    Say a fighter breaks his hand. Is it unfair "performance enhancing" for him to have a doctor reset the bones before putting a cast on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    So being on peds is not an offense anymore? Cool. Way to go out the drain, boxing reputation
    The whole point is that they were not performance "enhancing," they were performance "normalizing."

    Say a fighter breaks his hand. Is it unfair "performance enhancing" for him to have a doctor reset the bones before putting a cast on it?
    That is a dumb analogy. Everyone has their bones reset after a break, but if a boxer lacked the natural ability to heal a fracture and had to used a banned substance to trigger that healing he would still be cheating. If he did this for two fights and was then caught, rather than seeking special dispensation he should be seen as cheating. If there are clear rules and you not only ignore them but do so repeatedly and then only come clean after being caught, then motive or mitigating health conditions do not come into it. It seems that his backstory coupled with a misguided sympathy for a condition that strikes at what people perceive as defining manhood, has clouded peoples judgment. Sure one can empathise with his situation but that does not mean you have to condone his solution, actions or attitude.

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    My physical abilities are below average so cheating to improve them is fair? What?!?!

    Next it will be ok to take the answers in to an exam because you're not as smart as everybody else?

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    Adam if it improves performance, maybe I shall get myself a bucket full, now do you no anything that
    will make me attractive to women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    My physical abilities are below average so cheating to improve them is fair? What?!?!

    Next it will be ok to take the answers in to an exam because you're not as smart as everybody else?
    So, Adam the PED's formulated the gameplan to beat Amir Khan and adapt Peterson's strategy as the fight went on to seal a victory? Damn...PED's have advanced..you don't even need a trainer anymore..fuck it, any "average ability" Joe can be a world champion eh? Just take PEDs

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    The Syrian 400 meter runner just got caught with PEDs in her system and came in dead last. She must really suck. DONT LET THIS SHIT HAPPEN AGAIN LAMONT. U got ya 1 gift. I like u but if u get caught doing this dum shit again then u on your own.

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    I'm curious as to how you get all of that from what I said? There's reading between the lines and then theres making stuff up to suit a cookie cutter response (PEDs didn't make so and so practice hitting home runs bla bla bla... heard it all before).

    You're right, boxing requires several attributes. Ring smarts, reflexes, focus, endurance, strength, power, agility and of course dedication and skill. Must have missed that during the time I 've competed, I thought it was just the protein shakes doing the work.

    You can have all of the skills in the world but if you lack the required physical attributes then good luck applying any of it.

    And if you fall short physically naturally then tough shit... You might have everything else but why should it be ok to blatantly infringe rules to make up for it?

    People aren't opposed to PEDs because they want a level playing field - they don't, you'd have fight after fight of draws.

    If he had low T levels then he's had however long he's know to inform the boxing controls of any legitimate treatment he's been having... He fucked up and didn't, is it any surprise that doing it after the fact stinks to many? Did his Dr. not know he was treating a pro athlete? He should have told him to disclose the fact he was taking testosterone. If I recall, you wanted Enzo punished for a lot less and didn't like that the bbbc TOOK the facts in to account when handing out a token slap on the wrist to enzo instead of giving him the big one given to big larry?

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    If Lamont is to be blamed for something it could be that he never bothered to stay on top of something that he should have stayed on top of. Maybe he’s a few cards short of a deck but I imagine he assumed that those on his team were looking after his best interests since that’s what they are paid for. After all he’s a boxer and not a biological chemist with barely a grade school education who grew up in a cardboard box with his brother on the mean street. One could argue that he agreed to the additional testing because again he assumed everything was in order.

    I’m giving the kid the benefit of the doubt. I just can’t believe that he would knowingly risk it all when he finally reached the top of the mountain after all he has been through.
    The physical evidence outweighs any perceived intent.

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    I hope Judah wins

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    Even if we get beyond the fact that there is no doubt Peterson is shady by taking testosterone on the sly, I'm undecided on how I feel about permitting normalizing testosterone levels in order to equal the playing field. Isn't it a slippery slope? Won't every boxer attempt to take enough testosterone to test immediately under the legal limit. For example, what was Amir Khan's testosterone level for the Peterson fight? Let's say it was 1.2:1. If Peterson came in at 3.7:1, which is under the 4:1 legal limit, wasn't he at a decided advantage over Khan?

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