lamont peterson still ibf champ!

[AdamGB]

My physical abilities are below average so cheating to improve them is fair? What?!?!

Next it will be ok to take the answers in to an exam because you're not as smart as everybody else?

[Dia bando]

Adam if it improves performance, maybe I shall get myself a bucket full, now do you no anything that
will make me attractive to women.

[Althugz]

My physical abilities are below average so cheating to improve them is fair? What?!?!

Next it will be ok to take the answers in to an exam because you're not as smart as everybody else?

So, Adam the PED's formulated the gameplan to beat Amir Khan and adapt Peterson's strategy as the fight went on to seal a victory? Damn...PED's have advanced..you don't even need a trainer anymore..fuck it, any "average ability" Joe can be a world champion eh? Just take PEDs

[uwey]

The Syrian 400 meter runner just got caught with PEDs in her system and came in dead last. She must really suck. DONT LET THIS SHIT HAPPEN AGAIN LAMONT. U got ya 1 gift. I like u but if u get caught doing this dum shit again then u on your own.

[AdamGB]

I'm curious as to how you get all of that from what I said? There's reading between the lines and then theres making stuff up to suit a cookie cutter response (PEDs didn't make so and so practice hitting home runs bla bla bla... heard it all before).

You're right, boxing requires several attributes. Ring smarts, reflexes, focus, endurance, strength, power, agility and of course dedication and skill. Must have missed that during the time I 've competed, I thought it was just the protein shakes doing the work.

You can have all of the skills in the world but if you lack the required physical attributes then good luck applying any of it.

And if you fall short physically naturally then tough shit... You might have everything else but why should it be ok to blatantly infringe rules to make up for it?

People aren't opposed to PEDs because they want a level playing field - they don't, you'd have fight after fight of draws.

If he had low T levels then he's had however long he's know to inform the boxing controls of any legitimate treatment he's been having... He fucked up and didn't, is it any surprise that doing it after the fact stinks to many? Did his Dr. not know he was treating a pro athlete? He should have told him to disclose the fact he was taking testosterone. If I recall, you wanted Enzo punished for a lot less and didn't like that the bbbc TOOK the facts in to account when handing out a token slap on the wrist to enzo instead of giving him the big one given to big larry?

[Althugz]

I'm curious as to how you get all of that from what I said? There's reading between the lines and then theres making stuff up to suit a cookie cutter response (PEDs didn't make so and so practice hitting home runs bla bla bla... heard it all before).

You're right, boxing requires several attributes. Ring smarts, reflexes, focus, endurance, strength, power, agility and of course dedication and skill. Must have missed that during the time I 've competed, I thought it was just the protein shakes doing the work.

You can have all of the skills in the world but if you lack the required physical attributes then good luck applying any of it.

And if you fall short physically naturally then tough shit... You might have everything else but why should it be ok to blatantly infringe rules to make up for it?

People aren't opposed to PEDs because they want a level playing field - they don't, you'd have fight after fight of draws.

If he had low T levels then he's had however long he's know to inform the boxing controls of any legitimate treatment he's been having... He fucked up and didn't, is it any surprise that doing it after the fact stinks to many? Did his Dr. not know he was treating a pro athlete? He should have told him to disclose the fact he was taking testosterone. If I recall, you wanted Enzo punished for a lot less and didn't like that the bbbc TOOK the facts in to account when handing out a token slap on the wrist to enzo instead of giving him the big one given to big larry?

The Enzo case was anything but looking at the facts. They allowed Enzo to give them puppy dog eyes and claim "I didn't know...honest!" - They believed him and gave him some time off between fights. Hardly punishment. Lamont got caught but presented cold, hard evidence afterwards about why he was taking the stuff..no grey area. No taking his word for it like UKAD did with Enzo.
Ok, I did misread your initial post slightly. You said "average physical" and not average boxing skills. Yes, that is different. My error.

[AdamGB]

As far as I know Enzo was caught with a small trace of something he was allowed in training but not on fight night?

I never buy the whole 'low hormone' thing, I've heard it from too many boxers. It's all too easy in america to visit a chiropractor or some other psuedo doctor with no health problems or symptoms at all and get diagnosed via some take home test for a 'hormone deficiency' with no accepted low levels and get prescribed hgh, test etc for 'anti aging'.

Innocent unti proven guilty I guess, but to me it stinks.

[AdamGB]

I need to point out that knowing petersons upbringing, I was happy for him when he beat Khan and very dissapointed when I heard he'd failed a test. I want him to be clean, I just don't buy it.

[Althugz]

I need to point out that knowing petersons upbringing, I was happy for him when he beat Khan and very dissapointed when I heard he'd failed a test. I want him to be clean, I just don't buy it.

For the record, neither do I..but his team is doing a good job of making sure all bases are covered. Of course, I'm one of those who feel it is rampant by all athletes at those very high levels of sport. Saw a great article on Usain Bolt lately too..just food for thought :

http://www.muscleweek.com/is-usain-bolt-on-steroids

[IamInuit]

If Lamont is to be blamed for something it could be that he never bothered to stay on top of something that he should have stayed on top of. Maybe he’s a few cards short of a deck but I imagine he assumed that those on his team were looking after his best interests since that’s what they are paid for. After all he’s a boxer and not a biological chemist with barely a grade school education who grew up in a cardboard box with his brother on the mean street. One could argue that he agreed to the additional testing because again he assumed everything was in order.

I’m giving the kid the benefit of the doubt. I just can’t believe that he would knowingly risk it all when he finally reached the top of the mountain after all he has been through.
The physical evidence outweighs any perceived intent.

[Tam Seddon]

I hope Judah wins

[Rantcatrat]

Even if we get beyond the fact that there is no doubt Peterson is shady by taking testosterone on the sly, I'm undecided on how I feel about permitting normalizing testosterone levels in order to equal the playing field. Isn't it a slippery slope? Won't every boxer attempt to take enough testosterone to test immediately under the legal limit. For example, what was Amir Khan's testosterone level for the Peterson fight? Let's say it was 1.2:1. If Peterson came in at 3.7:1, which is under the 4:1 legal limit, wasn't he at a decided advantage over Khan?

[DavilaJones]

I guess if IBF decided not to strip is because of a legitimate medical reason however I still don't like the fact that he never disclosed the issue. That being said I wonder if Peterson not being stripped had anything to do with Khan losing, perhaps its due to all the corruption I saw yet again in the Olympics (I'm Persian and what happened in the heavyweight division disgusted me) has renewed my sense of conspiracy and dread in boxing.

All that said and done it begs the following question; why Judah?

[shza]

All that said and done it begs the following question; why Judah?

I think his BS "win" over Matthyse looks very good for him right now. It's a wrinkle when trying to rank 140-pounders if you believe, like I do, that Matthyse is the best of the bunch.

Of course, Judah also got assed-out by Khan. So go figure. Might have to chalk it up to Judah simply getting far more chances than anyone else I can think of.