lamont peterson still ibf champ!

[Althugz]

I'm curious as to how you get all of that from what I said? There's reading between the lines and then theres making stuff up to suit a cookie cutter response (PEDs didn't make so and so practice hitting home runs bla bla bla... heard it all before).

You're right, boxing requires several attributes. Ring smarts, reflexes, focus, endurance, strength, power, agility and of course dedication and skill. Must have missed that during the time I 've competed, I thought it was just the protein shakes doing the work.

You can have all of the skills in the world but if you lack the required physical attributes then good luck applying any of it.

And if you fall short physically naturally then tough shit... You might have everything else but why should it be ok to blatantly infringe rules to make up for it?

People aren't opposed to PEDs because they want a level playing field - they don't, you'd have fight after fight of draws.

If he had low T levels then he's had however long he's know to inform the boxing controls of any legitimate treatment he's been having... He fucked up and didn't, is it any surprise that doing it after the fact stinks to many? Did his Dr. not know he was treating a pro athlete? He should have told him to disclose the fact he was taking testosterone. If I recall, you wanted Enzo punished for a lot less and didn't like that the bbbc TOOK the facts in to account when handing out a token slap on the wrist to enzo instead of giving him the big one given to big larry?

The Enzo case was anything but looking at the facts. They allowed Enzo to give them puppy dog eyes and claim "I didn't know...honest!" - They believed him and gave him some time off between fights. Hardly punishment. Lamont got caught but presented cold, hard evidence afterwards about why he was taking the stuff..no grey area. No taking his word for it like UKAD did with Enzo.
Ok, I did misread your initial post slightly. You said "average physical" and not average boxing skills. Yes, that is different. My error.

[AdamGB]

As far as I know Enzo was caught with a small trace of something he was allowed in training but not on fight night?

I never buy the whole 'low hormone' thing, I've heard it from too many boxers. It's all too easy in america to visit a chiropractor or some other psuedo doctor with no health problems or symptoms at all and get diagnosed via some take home test for a 'hormone deficiency' with no accepted low levels and get prescribed hgh, test etc for 'anti aging'.

Innocent unti proven guilty I guess, but to me it stinks.

[AdamGB]

I need to point out that knowing petersons upbringing, I was happy for him when he beat Khan and very dissapointed when I heard he'd failed a test. I want him to be clean, I just don't buy it.

[Althugz]

I need to point out that knowing petersons upbringing, I was happy for him when he beat Khan and very dissapointed when I heard he'd failed a test. I want him to be clean, I just don't buy it.

For the record, neither do I..but his team is doing a good job of making sure all bases are covered. Of course, I'm one of those who feel it is rampant by all athletes at those very high levels of sport. Saw a great article on Usain Bolt lately too..just food for thought :

http://www.muscleweek.com/is-usain-bolt-on-steroids