Ricky Hatton apparently making an annoucnment on future in 3 days

[Bobthepen]

Because most 33 year old athletes haven't ruined their bodies with crash dieting, cocaine and drink binges, copious ammounts of saturated fat, herpes and of course years of using his face to block punches.

He'll never be back at an elite level. Expect a pre Kosta type career culminating on a stoppage to the likes of Khan at best.

What evidence is there that Hatton's "bad living" has harmed him? Until he comes back we will not know. Being out-of-shape during his career never effected him. In fact the penultimate fight of his career was one of his very best.

Just recently we've seen Eric Morales retire, spend three years as a big fat guy, return in a weight-class 20 pounds north of his best, yet hold his own in world-class.

33 seems pretty old when you're 23 but trust me it ain't.

I'd bet anything Hatton would take qutting on his school against Powderpuff Paulie, let alone Khan in a literally ginormous British fight, as his lasting ring memory rather than the current one - humiliated, lying flat on his back unconcious.

The problem is Hatton's relentless pressure brawling style is a young man's fight. Little purpose in comparing Hatton to Morales, as Eric could box beautifully when he wanted to, and showed his skills against much bigger, stronger fighters like Maidana.

Hatton used to cut weight like hell to make 140lbs, often coming in a stone heavier than that on fight night. Fighters in their thirties rarely do this because the body just quits after years of doing this. H e could not do that now and have anything like the engine he had a decade ago.

The only option for Hatton would be to come in way North of 140lbs, which as we know is not where his strengths lie because his game is being bigger and stronger than his opponent.

[Fenster]

Hatton was knocked down and "out on his feet" against Eamonn Magee and Vince Phillips 10-years-ago. Neither of those are considered the puncher Kostya was either. I don't think there's serious evidence that Hatton was hurt against Lazcano due to him fading as a fighter.

His only horrifying KO loss was to Pac (an all-time great, fearsome puncher). Dozens and dozens of fighters carry on after terrible losses. Just because Hatton is famous doesn't mean he should be prevented from this.

Look at guys like DeMarcus Corley? He's suffered about half-a-dozen KO losses and about 50 knockdowns yet pulled off TWO upset victories this year. He's much older than Hatton and boxed well over a hundred more rounds.

If Hatton wants to comeback - so be it.

[Fenster]

Because most 33 year old athletes haven't ruined their bodies with crash dieting, cocaine and drink binges, copious ammounts of saturated fat, herpes and of course years of using his face to block punches.

He'll never be back at an elite level. Expect a pre Kosta type career culminating on a stoppage to the likes of Khan at best.

What evidence is there that Hatton's "bad living" has harmed him? Until he comes back we will not know. Being out-of-shape during his career never effected him. In fact the penultimate fight of his career was one of his very best.

Just recently we've seen Eric Morales retire, spend three years as a big fat guy, return in a weight-class 20 pounds north of his best, yet hold his own in world-class.

33 seems pretty old when you're 23 but trust me it ain't.

I'd bet anything Hatton would take qutting on his school against Powderpuff Paulie, let alone Khan in a literally ginormous British fight, as his lasting ring memory rather than the current one - humiliated, lying flat on his back unconcious.

The problem is Hatton's relentless pressure brawling style is a young man's fight. Little purpose in comparing Hatton to Morales, as Eric could box beautifully when he wanted to, and showed his skills against much bigger, stronger fighters like Maidana.

Hatton used to cut weight like hell to make 140lbs, often coming in a stone heavier than that on fight night. Fighters in their thirties rarely do this because the body just quits after years of doing this. H e could not do that now and have anything like the engine he had a decade ago.

The only option for Hatton would be to come in way North of 140lbs, which as we know is not where his strengths lie because his game is being bigger and stronger than his opponent.

I understand that.

However, there are literally hundreds of fighters older, shitter and thicker than Hatton that have took much more punishment. Virtually nobody cares about them or believes they don't have a right to box.

Hatton is not some novice chancer trying his arm at boxing, amazing as it seems to some people, he was actually pretty fucking good at this fighting lark.

If Hatton is not fit to box then half the current fighters holding a license aren't either.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Hatton was knocked down and "out on his feet" against Eamonn Magee and Vince Phillips 10-years-ago. Neither of those are considered the puncher Kostya was either. I don't think there's serious evidence that Hatton was hurt against Lazcano due to him fading as a fighter.

If Hatton wants to comeback - so be it.

Magee was underrated anyway imo, a slick southpaw made of iron! Tricky fighter for anyone...

Hatton got back up and boxed a very intelligent fight.

I don't remember phillips knocking him down, i remember hatton busting vince up big style!

Hattons chin was rock solid. I believe that his punch resistance has deteriorated as a result of lifestyle. If you doubt his chin in his prime, take a look at the Tszyu fight. Hatton walked through some absolute bombs. Castillo and collazo landed too.

[Fenster]

Hatton was knocked down and "out on his feet" against Eamonn Magee and Vince Phillips 10-years-ago. Neither of those are considered the puncher Kostya was either. I don't think there's serious evidence that Hatton was hurt against Lazcano due to him fading as a fighter.

If Hatton wants to comeback - so be it.

Magee was underrated anyway imo, a slick southpaw made of iron! Tricky fighter for anyone...

Hatton got back up and boxed a very intelligent fight.

I don't remember phillips knocking him down, i remember hatton busting vince up big style!

Hattons chin was rock solid. I believe that his punch resistance has deteriorated as a result of lifestyle. If you doubt his chin in his prime, take a look at the Tszyu fight. Hatton walked through some absolute bombs. Castillo and collazo landed too.

Phillips didn't put Hatton down he seriously rocked him though. Hatton admitted it afterwards, saying - he didn't know whether he was in Manchester or Vegas at that point.

Magee and Philips were before Kostya. Lazcano and Collazo hurt him after Kostya. Urango hurt him to the body.

There's no evidence Hatton was ever knocked out/hurt through wear-and-tear. He's been hurt numerous times during his entire career.

[Bobthepen]

Because most 33 year old athletes haven't ruined their bodies with crash dieting, cocaine and drink binges, copious ammounts of saturated fat, herpes and of course years of using his face to block punches.

He'll never be back at an elite level. Expect a pre Kosta type career culminating on a stoppage to the likes of Khan at best.

What evidence is there that Hatton's "bad living" has harmed him? Until he comes back we will not know. Being out-of-shape during his career never effected him. In fact the penultimate fight of his career was one of his very best.

Just recently we've seen Eric Morales retire, spend three years as a big fat guy, return in a weight-class 20 pounds north of his best, yet hold his own in world-class.

33 seems pretty old when you're 23 but trust me it ain't.

I'd bet anything Hatton would take qutting on his school against Powderpuff Paulie, let alone Khan in a literally ginormous British fight, as his lasting ring memory rather than the current one - humiliated, lying flat on his back unconcious.

The problem is Hatton's relentless pressure brawling style is a young man's fight. Little purpose in comparing Hatton to Morales, as Eric could box beautifully when he wanted to, and showed his skills against much bigger, stronger fighters like Maidana.

Hatton used to cut weight like hell to make 140lbs, often coming in a stone heavier than that on fight night. Fighters in their thirties rarely do this because the body just quits after years of doing this. H e could not do that now and have anything like the engine he had a decade ago.

The only option for Hatton would be to come in way North of 140lbs, which as we know is not where his strengths lie because his game is being bigger and stronger than his opponent.

I understand that.

However, there are literally hundreds of fighters older, shitter and thicker than Hatton that have took much more punishment. Virtually nobody cares about them or believes they don't have a right to box.

Hatton is not some novice chancer trying his arm at boxing, amazing as it seems to some people, he was actually pretty fucking good at this fighting lark.

If Hatton is not fit to box then half the current fighters holding a license aren't either.

I agree, Hatton would still be better than, say RJJ or Toney, but it is beside the point.

The division has more talent than when he ruled it, and if Hatton believes he can come back and still bow out as a world champion he took more blows to the head than I thought.

I'd have no problem with a bout against another faded fighter for a spot of attention and some beer tokens, I just hope he doesn't go on a Holyfield-esque delusional crusade.

[Hulk]

Hatton was knocked down and "out on his feet" against Eamonn Magee and Vince Phillips 10-years-ago. Neither of those are considered the puncher Kostya was either. I don't think there's serious evidence that Hatton was hurt against Lazcano due to him fading as a fighter.

His only horrifying KO loss was to Pac (an all-time great, fearsome puncher). Dozens and dozens of fighters carry on after terrible losses. Just because Hatton is famous doesn't mean he should be prevented from this.

Look at guys like DeMarcus Corley? He's suffered about half-a-dozen KO losses and about 50 knockdowns yet pulled off TWO upset victories this year. He's much older than Hatton and boxed well over a hundred more rounds.

If Hatton wants to comeback - so be it.

I agree, great example with Corley or Nate Campbell for that matter.

I don't get this panic and outrage over a possible Hatton comeback.

He's not coming back for a rematch with Pacqauio or to fight Canelo or some other suicide mission.

[captainanddew]

Hatton was knocked down and "out on his feet" against Eamonn Magee and Vince Phillips 10-years-ago. Neither of those are considered the puncher Kostya was either. I don't think there's serious evidence that Hatton was hurt against Lazcano due to him fading as a fighter.

His only horrifying KO loss was to Pac (an all-time great, fearsome puncher). Dozens and dozens of fighters carry on after terrible losses. Just because Hatton is famous doesn't mean he should be prevented from this.

Look at guys like DeMarcus Corley? He's suffered about half-a-dozen KO losses and about 50 knockdowns yet pulled off TWO upset victories this year. He's much older than Hatton and boxed well over a hundred more rounds.

If Hatton wants to comeback - so be it.

I agree, great example with Corley or Nate Campbell for that matter.

I don't get this panic and outrage over a possible Hatton comeback.

He's not coming back for a rematch with Pacqauio or to fight Canelo or some other suicide mission.

that is a reasonable assumption and I usually agree with you, but boxers aren't reasonable men. After his tuneup fight he'll probably go for an opponent that is too tough. At this point, I'd rather he just stay retired. But if he were to take a beating he isn't in the condition of guys like Jones Jr. or Toney, that are risking their long-term health to such a high degree (all boxers risk long-term health just not to degree that those faded guys are).

[Spicoli]

Because most 33 year old athletes haven't ruined their bodies with crash dieting, cocaine and drink binges, copious ammounts of saturated fat, herpes and of course years of using his face to block punches.

He'll never be back at an elite level. Expect a pre Kosta type career culminating on a stoppage to the likes of Khan at best.

What evidence is there that Hatton's "bad living" has harmed him? Until he comes back we will not know. Being out-of-shape during his career never effected him. In fact the penultimate fight of his career was one of his very best.

Just recently we've seen Eric Morales retire, spend three years as a big fat guy, return in a weight-class 20 pounds north of his best, yet hold his own in world-class.

33 seems pretty old when you're 23 but trust me it ain't.

I'd bet anything Hatton would take qutting on his school against Powderpuff Paulie, let alone Khan in a literally ginormous British fight, as his lasting ring memory rather than the current one - humiliated, lying flat on his back unconcious.

The problem is Hatton's relentless pressure brawling style is a young man's fight. Little purpose in comparing Hatton to Morales, as Eric could box beautifully when he wanted to, and showed his skills against much bigger, stronger fighters like Maidana.

Hatton used to cut weight like hell to make 140lbs, often coming in a stone heavier than that on fight night. Fighters in their thirties rarely do this because the body just quits after years of doing this. H e could not do that now and have anything like the engine he had a decade ago.

The only option for Hatton would be to come in way North of 140lbs, which as we know is not where his strengths lie because his game is being bigger and stronger than his opponent.

I understand that.

However, there are literally hundreds of fighters older, shitter and thicker than Hatton that have took much more punishment. Virtually nobody cares about them or believes they don't have a right to box.

Hatton is not some novice chancer trying his arm at boxing, amazing as it seems to some people, he was actually pretty fucking good at this fighting lark.

If Hatton is not fit to box then half the current fighters holding a license aren't either.

I agree, Hatton would still be better than, say RJJ or Toney, but it is beside the point.

The division has more talent than when he ruled it, and if Hatton believes he can come back and still bow out as a world champion he took more blows to the head than I thought.

I'd have no problem with a bout against another faded fighter for a spot of attention and some beer tokens, I just hope he doesn't go on a Holyfield-esque delusional crusade.

I think thats what makes him more reasonable and lucid than a Jones jr or Toney who have all but been embarrassed lately and desperate. Hatton at least had the marbles to step away and take stock. Difference between all three and a Holyfield is he's not getting sparked and can say he deserved to beat the last champion he faced, as garbage as a Valuev was. I think if Hatton has doubts or isn't 'there' vs lesser guys, he'll be prideful enough to step away. Thats rare today.

[Althugz]

I personally think he will get back in the ring, I hope its a serious comeback if he does comeback, he doesnt need another brutal KO like last time, wasnt good to see at all. If he does comeback he needs a trainer who isnt a nutter either, and is there for ricky and only ricky. I didnt like the Mayweather-hatton relationship to be honest, didnt work at all.

He only failed at the very top. I knew Mayweather Senior was a mistake, when things go bad around him, the blame always belongs to someone else.

That's absolute loser speak. "When things go bad for him, the blame always belongs to someone else"?? Really??

I thought Ricky looked a million bucks when he fought Paulie. He outboxed him, stepped in and out, even had some resemblance of defence and patience that he didn't have with Billy Graham.

Ricky's problem has and always will be his ego. This is why I worry for his comeback. Sure, some of you are saying he would still be better and more credible than most fighters with a boxing licence today. While this is true, it's the level that Ricky will think he can fight at which worries me. You think Ricky will stick to the domestic scene or fringe contenders? Remember that this is the same guy that said things like : "No way Floyd knocks me out, when was the last time you knocked someone out?" or "I'm bigger than Floyd so I'll be able to bully him"

He thought the same thing about Pacquiao and got absolutely iced. Mayweather Sr was a convenient scapegoat. Regardless of how well camp went, Sr would never have sent him out there to with that ridiculous gameplan.

If he is to come back, he needs a team around him that will give him 100% honesty about his limits because he can't seem to see them.

[Saddo]

I would take a guess that the below photo and PR are connected....

http://www.saddoboxing.com/19674-hol...ko-hatton.html

http://www.saddoboxing.com/19670-mat...ew-season.html

[Master]

From that photo he does look in good shape, that is good news for his health.

[Beanz]

I personally think he will get back in the ring, I hope its a serious comeback if he does comeback, he doesnt need another brutal KO like last time, wasnt good to see at all. If he does comeback he needs a trainer who isnt a nutter either, and is there for ricky and only ricky. I didnt like the Mayweather-hatton relationship to be honest, didnt work at all.

He only failed at the very top. I knew Mayweather Senior was a mistake, when things go bad around him, the blame always belongs to someone else.

That's absolute loser speak. "When things go bad for him, the blame always belongs to someone else"?? Really??

I thought Ricky looked a million bucks when he fought Paulie. He outboxed him, stepped in and out, even had some resemblance of defence and patience that he didn't have with Billy Graham.

Ricky's problem has and always will be his ego. This is why I worry for his comeback. Sure, some of you are saying he would still be better and more credible than most fighters with a boxing licence today. While this is true, it's the level that Ricky will think he can fight at which worries me. You think Ricky will stick to the domestic scene or fringe contenders? Remember that this is the same guy that said things like : "No way Floyd knocks me out, when was the last time you knocked someone out?" or "I'm bigger than Floyd so I'll be able to bully him"

He thought the same thing about Pacquiao and got absolutely iced. Mayweather Sr was a convenient scapegoat. Regardless of how well camp went, Sr would never have sent him out there to with that ridiculous gameplan.

If he is to come back, he needs a team around him that will give him 100% honesty about his limits because he can't seem to see them.

Mayweather Sr conducted himself disgracefully running up to the Pacquiao fight, Mocking Roach's disability and then saying dumb things, like calling Hatton "the Italian stallion" .
The guy has gotten thrown out of his own son's gym and yet you think he had some master gameplan that would have completely reinvented Ricky Hatton? give me a break

The arrogance required to think that you can judge at what level he can fight at and what his limits are, is pretty breathtaking in itself, but to then suggest that the problem is with his ego and lack of humility is laughable. "Domestic and fringe contenders"?


KHAN
GARCIA
BRADLEY
PACQUIAO

[TitoFan]

I personally think he will get back in the ring, I hope its a serious comeback if he does comeback, he doesnt need another brutal KO like last time, wasnt good to see at all. If he does comeback he needs a trainer who isnt a nutter either, and is there for ricky and only ricky. I didnt like the Mayweather-hatton relationship to be honest, didnt work at all.

He only failed at the very top. I knew Mayweather Senior was a mistake, when things go bad around him, the blame always belongs to someone else.

That's absolute loser speak. "When things go bad for him, the blame always belongs to someone else"?? Really??

I thought Ricky looked a million bucks when he fought Paulie. He outboxed him, stepped in and out, even had some resemblance of defence and patience that he didn't have with Billy Graham.

Ricky's problem has and always will be his ego. This is why I worry for his comeback. Sure, some of you are saying he would still be better and more credible than most fighters with a boxing licence today. While this is true, it's the level that Ricky will think he can fight at which worries me. You think Ricky will stick to the domestic scene or fringe contenders? Remember that this is the same guy that said things like : "No way Floyd knocks me out, when was the last time you knocked someone out?" or "I'm bigger than Floyd so I'll be able to bully him"

He thought the same thing about Pacquiao and got absolutely iced. Mayweather Sr was a convenient scapegoat. Regardless of how well camp went, Sr would never have sent him out there to with that ridiculous gameplan.

If he is to come back, he needs a team around him that will give him 100% honesty about his limits because he can't seem to see them.

Mayweather Sr conducted himself disgracefully running up to the Pacquiao fight, Mocking Roach's disability and then saying dumb things, like calling Hatton "the Italian stallion" .
The guy has gotten thrown out of his own son's gym and yet you think he had some master gameplan that would have completely reinvented Ricky Hatton? give me a break

The arrogance required to think that you can judge at what level he can fight at and what his limits are, is pretty breathtaking in itself, but to then suggest that the problem is with his ego and lack of humility is laughable. "Domestic and fringe contenders"?


KHAN
GARCIA
BRADLEY
PACQUIAO

Hatton would want to fight Pacquiao again why?
Did the anesthesia wear off?

[TheMacMagician]

If Hatton does decide to have one last go, I'm gonna keep a glimmer of hope that it will be with Billy Graham, just for the good times, one more stab at it. Billy Graham was a top top fella and what they shared was simply brilliant and a partnership I'll never forget.