Orlin norris (an overlooked)...

[Hulk]

Phill...

Either way I'm sure Mike Tyson enjoyed both the highs and lows of "cheating"

Norris faked his fight with Tyson.

Norris wanted to be in there with Tyson about as much as Clifford Etienne did....

[Dia bando]

Norris problem was his size, he was not really a ture HW seen him in some good fights, but all in all
a good fighter.

[Master]

Phill...

Either way I'm sure Mike Tyson enjoyed both the highs and lows of "cheating"

Norris faked his fight with Tyson.

Norris wanted to be in there with Tyson about as much as Clifford Etienne did....

Or Seldon.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Ya but other than SHW freaks tyson and vitali, norris was a difficult fighter to look good against win or lose! Not a great fighter but a tricky fighter, tucker, akinwande, jirov, page, mcall etc none of em could beat him convincingly, He gave golota a solid fight too! Good fighter all in all, great pedigree and probably deserved a shot at more 'names' certainly not a journeyman. Just thought i would guage ppl's opinions on him. Moorer vs norris would have been a good fight.

[greynotsoold]

Norris got caught between sizes. He didn't feel he was big enough to fight as a HW, though he probably could have done well there. He just wasn't a big puncher at that weight. Then he went down to cruiser and, in my opinion, lost to Arthur Williams and Adolpho Washington (who boxed a beautiful fight that night), and he wasn't a big puncher there, either.
He just wasn't meant to knock guys out and he should have stayed at the higher weight, probably made more money.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Norris got caught between sizes. He didn't feel he was big enough to fight as a HW, though he probably could have done well there. He just wasn't a big puncher at that weight. Then he went down to cruiser and, in my opinion, lost to Arthur Williams and Adolpho Washington (who boxed a beautiful fight that night), and he wasn't a big puncher there, either.
He just wasn't meant to knock guys out and he should have stayed at the higher weight, probably made more money.

I don't think it was anything to do with him feeling undersized, other than a few SHW's tucker was not outsized! Tyson was the same size! Norris weighed between 215-220 for tyson and tucker and was ripped! (He was 230lbs for vitali!) He moved to CW because no one would fight him and don king controlled a lot of the main players, he had trouble going sub 200lbs hence his inevitable move back to HW...

Orlin used to be a master at chopping down huge guys check his excellent performance 1991 v tony tnt tucker. He also did real good v akinwande and deserved the decision. Even his fight with golota was close!

At his peak he only lost 3 fights, he was beating bert cooper till he suffered a knee injury (which recurred v tyson!!!) He was probably robbed v tony tucker first time round, tucker outboxed him but was outed for steroids subsequently.

Everybody should check orlin norris v tony tucker 1 to see him master at work. And as i said i also think he did a real good job on akinwande and that is really something considerin henry is 6'7''.

He was #1 contender for a reason and i would have loved to see him fight holyfield in 1998 but don king KOd that with henry and his manouverings.

[greynotsoold]

I think i saw every Norris fight, be it Orlin or Terry, after their 4th or 5th fights. In stead of saying "out-sized" maybe I should say that he felt like he couldn't punch enough at that weight. Tyson, meanwhile, was a huge puncher. Norris was not, not at HW and not at the lower weight. I was sure he would go down there and be a destroyer, but he wasn't. He was a boxer, not a puncher, and being a 5'11" boxer and fighting at 230 pounds is a tough sell.