Froch opponent announced: Yusef Mack

[AdamGB]

The point isn't that Calzaghe is directly involved in Froch's desicion making... Just that the situation of a well established champion not wanting to fight guys who are no where near as established is one that can be compared to calzaghe not fighting froch.

I doubt Froch worries about Calzaghe when chosing fights, I think Froch has done OK without Calzaghe, don't you?

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Froch has done well for himself since Calzaghe but if we remember back to when Calzaghe had dominated the division for 11 years and was a massive name world wide after ruining Lacy and Kessler and unifying the division, Carl was yet to even fight a former world title holder or challenger. His first was Reid, yes Robin Reid who was on the comeback after retirement. That was Frochs first opponent that had been anywhere near the wrold stage!

Back then Froch was an absolute nobody amd he was in fact offered a fight with Calzaghe in early 2007 but Hennesy wouldnt let Froch anywhere near Calzaghe because apparently Warren wanted options on Frochs future fights. I think it had a little to do with that but also he probably wasnt offered alot as Froch was litterally a nobody at that point and Hennesy would be realistic enough to realise that Froch would have a loss on his record before hes even established.

[erics44]

The point isn't that Calzaghe is directly involved in Froch's desicion making... Just that the situation of a well established champion not wanting to fight guys who are no where near as established is one that can be compared to calzaghe not fighting froch.

I doubt Froch worries about Calzaghe when chosing fights, I think Froch has done OK without Calzaghe, don't you?

naa youre getting too deep, if the money there nowt else matters

and Froch would make more money fighting Clev than all but a handful of other fighters at the same/similar weights

Perhaps he could make more fighting Kes, or the bute fight might draw a similar amount

if martinez stepped up maybe, hopkins? Bellew?

and lets be honest, hopkins martinez is very unrealistic

so back to you

[erics44]

But Calzaghe didnt fight him so i doubt he will fight clev

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To be fair at least Cleverly is known on the world stage, whereas when Froch was calling Calzaghe out, Joe was one of the biggest names in World boxing and in the top ten pound for pound directly after Kessler, whereas Froch had still to fight his first former world title holder or even challenger, which was Reid

[erics44]

To be fair at least Cleverly is known on the world stage, whereas when Froch was calling Calzaghe out, Joe was one of the biggest names in World boxing and in the top ten pound for pound directly after Kessler, whereas Froch had still to fight his first former world title holder or even challenger, which was Reid

when froch was calling out calzaghe, calzaghe was coming to the end of his career

calzaghe had the chance of bigger money fights with big name americans, thats why they never fought

had froch been in the position to fight joe a 3 or 4 years earlier then you never know

[Fenster]

Cleverly isn't even close to being a big money option for Froch. He's been defending his "world" title on James DeGale undercards. The Bellew fight was put in Liverpool. His headline bill in Wales was in front of a couple/few thousand.

Groves/Degale/Macklin/Bellew - those Brits would be bigger fights around that weight let alone the worldwide mob.

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Realisticly only Groves is viable on that list as Cleverly has beaten Bellew and Groves has beaten De Gale. None interest me though.

Pavlik would make an entertaining fight. Even Hopkins said he could feel his power and Pavlik has a good chin.

Bellew has to hope like fuck he doesnt get caught early by Miranda or he can kiss his career goodbye.

[erics44]

Cleverly isn't even close to being a big money option for Froch. He's been defending his "world" title on James DeGale undercards. The Bellew fight was put in Liverpool. His headline bill in Wales was in front of a couple/few thousand.

Groves/Degale/Macklin/Bellew - those Brits would be bigger fights around that weight let alone the worldwide mob.

that might well be the case but the point is that thats the reason the fight wouldnt happen and not coz calzaghe wouldnt fight him

i agree pavlik would be a big fight

Im willing to start a very draft top 10 money fights for froch (in no particular order)

Pavlik
Kessler
Bute
Groves
Degale
Maklin
Bellew
Clevely
Ward
Andy Lee