Sturm or Geale???

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

sturm, abraham, the klitschkos and others all get the benefit of the doubt in germany. Tonight was different.

What gift decision have the klitschkos or abraham ever got in germany? Sturm got one vs macklin yah but less we forget felix was robbed in vegas vs de la hoya! Gifts happen everywere.

Oh ya and i predicted this fight right. Well done me.

[Beanz]

Sturm, Abraham, the Klitschkos and others all get the benefit of the doubt in Germany. Tonight was different.

When has either of the klits needed the benefit of the doubt Plus they've fought abroad many a time!!

sturm, abraham, the klitschkos and others all get the benefit of the doubt in germany. Tonight was different.

What gift decision have the klitschkos or abraham ever got in germany? Sturm got one vs macklin yah but less we forget felix was robbed in vegas vs de la hoya! Gifts happen everywere.

Oh ya and i predicted this fight right. Well done me.

Maybe I should have made myself clearer. When I said the benefit of the doubt I was not referring merely to decisions. I have not been in a cave for the last 10 years and am well aware of Wlad and Vitali's immpressive KO total.I also have not forgot Sturm being screwed in Vegas, give me some credit guys, but then at that stage of his career he was hardly going to turn down such a huge opportunity. The fact remains the home town advantage is pretty blatant In Deutschland with reffs and promoters clearly shafting visiting fighters again and again. The grappling ,spoiling, leaning and fouling tactics employed by both Klits, the reff turns a blind eye, then the hometown desicions, Cately - Haussler, Ottke-Reid, Lebdev-Huck,Abraham-Steiglitz,Sylvester-Karmazin the list goes on. Not only do they fight nobodies at home they then have everything skewed in their favour. The undercard is non-exisitent which not only screws over the fans but betrays the paper thin understanding and attatchment the promoters and boxing authorities have for the sport. It is not an indictment of Germany but it's peculiar relationship with boxing. Only there would fighters taking 2:40 of a round off be awarded that round for 20 seconds work.

And for the record last night I had Sturm winning that one.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Otke gave the germans a bad name in regards to bad decisions in boxing, he is the most 'beaten' unbeaten fighter ever! Shame really because german's have produced some legitimate and truly great fighters over recent years, The tall southpaw henry maske who won olympic gold and beat
iran barkley as a pro,The great michalzewski, abraham, otkay urkal, schmelling etc. I don't think we should tarnish all germany with the otke brush!

I don't think the klitschkos do anything outside of the rules either TBH either. In fact they are 2 of the most proffessional fighters i have ever seen, they conduct themselves with absolute class in and out of the ring! I mean they fight worldwide and have hardly ever been deducted a point.

If someone like hopkins had fought with such integrity throughout his career he would have lost more fights IMO! Imagine the klitschko's employing the tactics hopkins has over his career they would be ridiculed.

[Rantcatrat]