Why do Hopkins, Ward, and Mayweather refuse to fight overseas?

[Freedom]

Ricky Hatton came to the US to fight Floyd Mayweather, even though the fight would have filled a stadium in England.

Joe Calzaghe had to go to the US to fight Bernard Hopkins, even though the fight would have attracted far more fans in Wales.

Mikkel Kessler had to go to Oakland to fight Andre Ward, even though Mikkel was the titleholder and the fight would have filled a stadium in Denmark.

When some people in the US complain about protected UK and mainland European boxers, it seems to me like a double standard. What about these pampered American fighters who demand home advantage for every fight against a decent opponent?

[Dropanuke]

Because they arnt real champions! Real champions and legends go abroad and fight the best in there home countries and lose!
That's what a champ does.

[Freedom]

Andre Ward worked with Victor Conte. For all Sauerland events, Olympic style drug testing is required. Did that have something to do with why Ward refused to fight Kessler and Abraham in Europe?

[DavilaJones]

Because they arnt real champions! Real champions and legends go abroad and fight the best in there home countries and lose!
That's what a champ does.

The Lineal supermiddle weight champ Ward, and of course the HoFer Mayweather and Hopkins aren't real champions?

[Bobthepen]

Because they arnt real champions! Real champions and legends go abroad and fight the best in there home countries and lose!
That's what a champ does.

The Lineal supermiddle weight champ Ward, and of course the HoFer Mayweather and Hopkins aren't real champions?

Exactly. Real champions like Tommy Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard travelled around the world defending their titles...

[Beanz]

Because they arnt real champions! Real champions and legends go abroad and fight the best in there home countries and lose!
That's what a champ does.

The Lineal supermiddle weight champ Ward, and of course the HoFer Mayweather and Hopkins aren't real champions?

Exactly. Real champions like Tommy Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard travelled around the world defending their titles...

Ward most definitely and even Mayweathers legacy will be compromised if he never fights out of the USA. Las Vegas was not always boxing's Mecca and the added kudos and fame aquired by travelling and fighting abroad, secures legacies and makes superstars. To non boxing fans FMJ is not a superstar and never will be. That is something he could rectify but probably never will. In the long run the echoes of his fame will diminish more quickly because of it.

[Bobthepen]

Because they arnt real champions! Real champions and legends go abroad and fight the best in there home countries and lose!
That's what a champ does.

The Lineal supermiddle weight champ Ward, and of course the HoFer Mayweather and Hopkins aren't real champions?

Exactly. Real champions like Tommy Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard travelled around the world defending their titles...

Ward most definitely and even Mayweathers legacy will be compromised if he never fights out of the USA. Las Vegas was not always boxing's Mecca and the added kudos and fame aquired by travelling and fighting abroad, secures legacies and makes superstars. To non boxing fans FMJ is not a superstar and never will be. That is something he could rectify but probably never will. In the long run the echoes of his fame will diminish more quickly because of it.

Disagree. Floyd is the highest paid sportsman in the world, and is a superstar in the US. I doubt he gives a flying fuck what people outside the US think of him, because he never goes anywhere. He is certainly more famous than any current basketball player or baseball star, and they don't worry about it.
We live in a world of global media, and Floyd will be discussed for generations.

[Althugz]

Because they arnt real champions! Real champions and legends go abroad and fight the best in there home countries and lose!
That's what a champ does.

The Lineal supermiddle weight champ Ward, and of course the HoFer Mayweather and Hopkins aren't real champions?

Exactly. Real champions like Tommy Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard travelled around the world defending their titles...

Ward most definitely and even Mayweathers legacy will be compromised if he never fights out of the USA. Las Vegas was not always boxing's Mecca and the added kudos and fame aquired by travelling and fighting abroad, secures legacies and makes superstars. To non boxing fans FMJ is not a superstar and never will be. That is something he could rectify but probably never will. In the long run the echoes of his fame will diminish more quickly because of it.

I love you lots and lots like Jelly Tots, Beanz but that is utter nonsense. After the Hatton fight, almost everybody at the gym I worked at knew who he was, boxing fan or not. He won't have as big an impact as Ali globally (obviously) but he is THE boxing superstar of our generation.

[Althugz]

Because most of these fights will sell far more ppvs in the U.S than they would in the U.K. It's all about making the most money and money is made via PPV's, not by "filling out a stadium"..Also the U.S charge $60+ for ppv's..we charge £15+

Fights always make more financial sense in the U.S.

[Freedom]

Because most of these fights will sell far more ppvs in the U.S than they would in the U.K. It's all about making the most money and money is made via PPV's, not by "filling out a stadium"..Also the U.S charge $60+ for ppv's..we charge £15+

Fights always make more financial sense in the U.S.

I see. That's why Ali fought Frazier in Manila, and fought Foreman in Africa.

Ward-Kessler was not PPV in the US, neither was Ward-Abraham.

And PPV's don't necessarily make the most money. Wladimir Klitschko makes more money than any American boxer except for Mayweather.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Because most of these fights will sell far more ppvs in the U.S than they would in the U.K. It's all about making the most money and money is made via PPV's, not by "filling out a stadium"..Also the U.S charge $60+ for ppv's..we charge £15+

Fights always make more financial sense in the U.S.

I see. That's why Ali fought Frazier in Manila, and fought Foreman in Africa.

Ward-Kessler was not PPV in the US, neither was Ward-Abraham.

And PPV's don't necessarily make the most money. Wladimir Klitschko makes more money than any American boxer except for Mayweather.

but most of Wlad's fights are also on PPV and the Klitschko's are like Gods in Germany due to their association with Schmeling

[Gandalf]

Why should they fight overseas? Though Ward is a pansy and should leave his hometown. I hope Dawson mutilates him.

[Freedom]

but most of Wlad's fights are also on PPV and the Klitschko's are like Gods in Germany due to their association with Schmeling

Wlad's fights are not on PPV (except the Haye fight was PPV in the UK).

His popularity in Germany is based on his being the heavyweight champion of the world, more than any association with Schmeling - he surpassed Max's achievements long ago.

His fights are watched by more people on IHTEP in Ukraine than on RTL Germany, as well as by millions more in Russia, Romania, Poland, etc.

[Beanflicker]

I see. That's why Ali fought Frazier in Manila, and fought Foreman in Africa.

Ward-Kessler was not PPV in the US, neither was Ward-Abraham.

And PPV's don't necessarily make the most money. Wladimir Klitschko makes more money than any American boxer except for Mayweather.

You're talking about fights that happened in the 70s, man.

[Althugz]

I see. That's why Ali fought Frazier in Manila, and fought Foreman in Africa.

Ward-Kessler was not PPV in the US, neither was Ward-Abraham.

And PPV's don't necessarily make the most money. Wladimir Klitschko makes more money than any American boxer except for Mayweather.

You're talking about fights that happened in the 70s, man.

Lol exactly - and furthermore what difference does it make to your point, Freedom, that two Americans fought each other in Africa or the Phillipines??