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    Quote Originally Posted by armin View Post
    This shits getting ridicelous every freakin column I read is calling for a rematch cause of 60seconds of success. I don't think I ve ever seen a dude get as much credit for being beaten from pillar to post for eleven and a half rounds, this was probably martinez's easiest defense . I don't hear people yelling for a macklin rematch or a pavlik rematch both who made it much closer fights, both had martinez down at some point, just not in the last round so were not getting this shit about what would happen the round after cause we saw what happened martinez goes back to dominating...I'm sorry this was a borring fight and I have no desire to see it again.
    Boxing is a business, fighters are contractors who work where they make the most money. That last minute KD insured a rematch between Martinez and Chavez will bring another huge payday for both fighters. Whether or not Chavez deserves a rematch is immaterial because money drives boxing. Pavlik and Macklin aren't hugely popular Mexican fighters and Mexicans support and believe in their fighters as well as any country. Hey, I'll pop for PPV again because I want to see if Martinez can do it again, or will Chavez listen to Roach and let his hands go sooner. Get used to it, there will be a rematch. Vegas is salivating already.

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    You guys talking about how Chavez will learn from this fight and a rematch would therefore be different are forgetting about two very important facts: (1) Chavez is not that naturally talented and (2) Chavez is lazy as all hell. He will not improve any further, either in a rematch or in his career in general. 50 professional fights is well enough to see that.

    Just look at everything his own trainer has said about him in the aftermath.

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    Default Re: JCC Jr will K.O Martinez in a rematch

    As soon as he relizes there are thirty five additional minutes out of thirty six where he shouldn't be getting punched in the face at will, well yeah, I'm sure he'll put on some clothes and march right off to the for real gym. Come on man.

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    Default Re: JCC Jr will K.O Martinez in a rematch

    No change of result in a rematch, speed kills and Chavez couldn't cope. I think hie rep for being lazy in training will not turn around for a quick rematch unless he has learned some humility and to listen to others.

    Martinez always has the fitness, only recently did his interest seem to wander. I think there could be KO second time around but not in Jnr's favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armin View Post
    This shits getting ridicelous every freakin column I read is calling for a rematch cause of 60seconds of success. I don't think I ve ever seen a dude get as much credit for being beaten from pillar to post for eleven and a half rounds, this was probably martinez's easiest defense . I don't hear people yelling for a macklin rematch or a pavlik rematch both who made it much closer fights, both had martinez down at some point, just not in the last round so were not getting this shit about what would happen the round after cause we saw what happened martinez goes back to dominating...I'm sorry this was a borring fight and I have no desire to see it again.
    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    You guys talking about how Chavez will learn from this fight and a rematch would therefore be different are forgetting about two very important facts: (1) Chavez is not that naturally talented and (2) Chavez is lazy as all hell. He will not improve any further, either in a rematch or in his career in general. 50 professional fights is well enough to see that.

    Just look at everything his own trainer has said about him in the aftermath.
    @shza and @armin are correct. Martinez even beat Junior when he decided to stand and trade. The difference between the two is that Martinez is a better skilled boxer. He used a jab. He turned Junior. He evaded Junior's punches. Literally, he was superior in every single facet of boxing. Martinez finally earned his Mayweather/Cotto fight with this performance.

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