Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
You guys forget Jr is only 26, is it not possible to learn from this defeat? When he let his hands go, its a different fight. When he stands infront of Martinez and follows him around ofcourse he gets dominated. Does that not point to youth/inexperience? Is Jr forever at this level and can not get any better?

I don't understand, he almost had Martinez out when he finally let his hands go and you guys don't even want to see a rematch?

Also why brag about Martinez injury? Did he come into the fight with it? As much as he was moving around and throwing left hands, it didn't seem to bother him?

BTW I'm a martinez fan!
in learning we have generally two periods in which your brain adapts to new information, one is fluid and the latter is crystalline. That is why its best to teach a fresh new boxer the proper fundamentals than to a boxer with well over 30+ bouts. It is essentially teaching an old dog new tricks. It seldom has to do with your personal age than repeated experience.

Surgar Ray was a boxer before he fought Duran and that's why in his second fight he had a sharp contrast to his original fight with him.

The point I'm try to make here is that you cannot suddenly force a guy to behave a certain way after he's already set in his own way. Look at Chavez vs Molina and you'll see he had the exact same problem and that was years ago. To believe that he'll suddenly be pumping the jab and throwing arm punch check hooks to keep Martinez in front of him while he's cutting the ring off is like saying that its possible to David Haye or Wladimir Klitschko to be good infighters.

It is in the realm of fantasy, I appreciate the zeal in which you like a new fighter but please be realistic with your expectations of him.