VK tribute thread...

[Freedom]

[Master]

Philosopher really! You quote Danny Williams beating Tyson. Please what are you on.

[Mars_ax]

Just finished watching "Klitschko" for the first time on HBO, it's an excellent documentary about the 2 K-Bros, that's well worth watching. After watching it i've got nothing but respect for these 2 brothers, the doc is a personal look into their lives. I also enjoyed hearing what their mother and deceased father had to say about them, as well as Vitali's wife, who I think is beautiful.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Philosopher really! You quote Danny Williams beating Tyson. Please what are you on.

A train. How about You...A swing?

What was lewis' win over a 234lb tyson in 02 then?? What r u on!!

Lewis was linear champ and williams was a B level HW FFS! Yet we should de-value williams' win!! Williams was the underdog in that fight BTW!

Tyson was the same age as vitali was when he fought sam peter after a 4 year layoff! Again proves the greatness of VK. It's not vitalis fault he dominated 2 weight champ adamek and holmes lost to spinks!

Adamek would beat i.e michael moorer (Who was battered by bert cooper and barely defeated average axel schultz!) and arreola would give anyone (but the elite!) of any era a hard night!

VK = ATG H2H FIGHTER! Don't hate...appreciate! LOL.

[Master]

Philiospoher you are overly obsessive with age to make your arguments when you know that boxers age relative to the boxing matches they have.

Danny Williams LOL

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Yeah i know danny williams lol...how embarrassing to get kayoed by him! U keep highlighting him, i just used him as an e.g same as norris, i don't think either man are in vitalis top 10 but the fact remains they beat tyson and mcall! Hence the original argument is defunct...

Now back to the topic at hand...Lets forget the exceptional klitschkos and focus on 2 of there better opponents i.e chris byrd and sam peter:

Sam peter beat the great james toney twice! The 2nd fight was a whitewash! Lets consider that a steroid riddlled toney beat ruiz, rahman, oquendo and holyfield! James toney is one of the ATG P4P fighters, one of the GREAT technicians! Can anyone other than casual fans honestly tell me that james toney would not have a chance at hustling 90's tyson! Tyson was easily frustrated and toney had a great chin so tysons power would be negated too...plus toney would not be intimidated by tyson! Tyson was one of THE great fighters of the 90's, can anyone really tell me tyson would be a cert over toney! I dont think so! 90's Tyson vs mid 00's toney is a 50\50 fight IMO yet peter beat him twice! Again lets HL the fact that toney outboxed ruiz, rahman, oquendo and holy! Vitali took him apart after a 4 year layoff...lets not forget too peter took maskaev apart just after he had defeated rahman for a 2nd time too! So don't label peter as some bum (i can only imagine what he would have done to someone like buster douglas!) Probably the same as he did to jeremy williams...The klitschkos fuckin ruined peter between them!

Now onto chris byrd: Byrd vs tua is not a match up we have to speculate about, it happened and tua was comprehensively outboxed! now tua is one of the greatest HW's of the 90's! He defeated moorer, ruiz, maskaev and rahman! So not only does that make byrd a great fighter it makes wlad klitschko even greater considering he owned him twice! Again byrd is clearly not a bum. Vitali vs byrd was also one sided (even byrds father admits vitali was doing a no. on chris!) if u think byrd is vitalis equal then i feel sorry for u ! Vitali (barring injuries) beats byrd easily in a rematch! Vitali quit, Byrd did not stop him, His body gave up on him! For good or bad that is simply the facts of the matter! Vitali klitschko beat vitali klitschko that night!

So can someone explain to me how it s a shit era or the klitschkos fight bums when peter was defeated x3 by the klitschkos and byrd x2?? Tua and toney got there arses owned by K2 victims now consider that between then they beat rahman, moorer, ruiz, maskaev, jirov, oquendo and holy! That is pretty impressive and shits on any arguments of dire eras and inferior opponents! They are inferior to klitscko they are not inferior to the vast majority of world class HW's! Wlad klitschko defeated byrd twice and peter twice how does that feel?? LOL. 3 of th best hw';s of the 90's could not defeat byrd and put HW toney in the 90's and i guarantee he would take scalps!!

So please quit talking your shit because we all know that olympic gold meddallists wlad, a motivated povetkin and solis are quality operators! But apparentl olympic gold isn't good enough nowadays and nor is dominance! We all know if these brothers were smack talking, darker skinned ghetto dwellers the americans would be all over them....there i said it! Oh and btw chagaev, byrd, undefeated calvin brock and adamek would do well in any era too! The americans only had it so good because the soviets couldn't turn pro! There has never been such a divese era as we have today, yes the ali era was competitive but it was competitve bewtween americans mainly and loaded with sub 200lb fighters!

James toney:

-UD Vasilly jirov.
-TKO Evander holyfield.
-MD Hashim rahman.
-TKO Hasim rahman (changed to NC due toney steroid abuse!)
-SD fres oquendo.
-UD Dominick guinn.

Sam peter SD and UD james toney.

David tua:

-TKO Hasim rahman
-Draw hasim rahman
-KO 1 john ruiz.
-KO 1 Michael moorer
-TKO 9 Fres oquendo.
-KO 6 danell nicholson.
-TKO 11 Oleg maskaev.

Chris byrd UD david tua.

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