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    Quote Originally Posted by Glinchdogg View Post
    Good post man
    Personally I think once mayweather is gone the Americans won't have any pound for pound stars
    The closest will Definatly be ward
    Broner gets beat from our man burns every time
    Burns is the man
    But yeah ward probably unless froch beats him next
    Or maybe groves
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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    Floyd not "fan friendly?"

    He's one of the biggest ever stars in world boxing let alone America. You don't sell over a million PPV every fight if you're not "fan friendly." Trust me.
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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Floyd not "fan friendly?"

    He's one of the biggest ever stars in world boxing let alone America. You don't sell over a million PPV every fight if you're not "fan friendly." Trust me.

    Maybe "fan-friendly" was not the best term to use. Of course he draws big... he's the consensus #1 p4p right now. But not everybody tunes in hoping he'll win. He doesn't have the "outside the ring" image of De la Hoya (before the fishnets) and Sugar Ray Leonard back in his time. Pavlik was the perfect candidate awhile back, before he became totally beatable, and an alcoholic to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Floyd not "fan friendly?"

    He's one of the biggest ever stars in world boxing let alone America. You don't sell over a million PPV every fight if you're not "fan friendly." Trust me.

    Maybe "fan-friendly" was not the best term to use. Of course he draws big... he's the consensus #1 p4p right now. But not everybody tunes in hoping he'll win. He doesn't have the "outside the ring" image of De la Hoya (before the fishnets) and Sugar Ray Leonard back in his time. Pavlik was the perfect candidate awhile back, before he became totally beatable, and an alcoholic to boot.
    You're both right, plenty of the PPVs are fans wanting to see Floyd get an ass whipping, Floyd knows and uses it to to keep going.
    Lying against the ropes, presenting first one shoulder then the other, is not fan friendly.
    Leading your opponent around the ring, waiting for him tire, while you throw jabs and the occasional counter is not fan friendly.
    I'm not saying I don't enjoy watching him work, it's just not fan friendly.

    Fenster, you are joking when you ask anyone to trust you, right?! Your icon, your handle and your gambling makes me want to check my wallet every time you post
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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    Andre Ward and Adrien Broner are the next American stars.

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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    There's no way that half of Floyd's PPV sales come from people wanting him to lose.

    How many people buy PPV's on this site? This is a hardcore boxing forum yet the majority ponce streams (myself included these days). The Floyd fans on this site don't buy his fights let alone the "haters"

    Half-a-million people paying $50 a pop to watch someone they don't like just isn't realistic. These casual's buy into Floyd the superstar, so his fights are must see events
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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    There's no way that half of Floyd's PPV sales come from people wanting him to lose.

    How many people buy PPV's on this site? This is a hardcore boxing forum yet the majority ponce streams (myself included these days). The Floyd fans on this site don't buy his fights let alone the "haters"

    Half-a-million people paying $50 a pop to watch someone they don't like just isn't realistic. These casual's buy into Floyd the superstar, so his fights are must see events


    Two words: Muhammad Ali

    PPV wasn't around back then.... but half the people paying good money to see his fights were doing so in the hopes that someone would shut his irreverent mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Andre Ward and Adrien Broner are the next American stars.
    That's just fucking sad, it's no wonder that most of my favorite fighters are from other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Andre Ward and Adrien Broner are the next American stars.
    That's just fucking sad, it's no wonder that most of my favorite fighters are from other countries.
    I haven't seen enough off Broner inside the ring to say one way or the other for sure, he has a lot of talent but I 'm not convinced yet.
    Ward is every bit as fan friendly as Floyd but doesn't do a lot of self promotion, like Mayweather. You are not going to see him running around with 50 Cent, carrying a flight bag stuffed with money, being released from jail, talking about how much he paid for his latest jewelry, hitting the Vegas casinos or talking to his girlfriend. Doing this does make Floyd a "superstar" to millions of people. Ward is never going to be a "superstar" the way Floyd is but I think he is as good as Floyd in the ring, maybe better. He's intelligent too, just like Floyd.

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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Andre Ward and Adrien Broner are the next American stars.
    That's just fucking sad, it's no wonder that most of my favorite fighters are from other countries.
    I might very well be with you on that. Who else is there?

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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Floyd not "fan friendly?"

    He's one of the biggest ever stars in world boxing let alone America. You don't sell over a million PPV every fight if you're not "fan friendly." Trust me.

    Maybe "fan-friendly" was not the best term to use. Of course he draws big... he's the consensus #1 p4p right now. But not everybody tunes in hoping he'll win. He doesn't have the "outside the ring" image of De la Hoya (before the fishnets) and Sugar Ray Leonard back in his time. Pavlik was the perfect candidate awhile back, before he became totally beatable, and an alcoholic to boot.
    You're both right, plenty of the PPVs are fans wanting to see Floyd get an ass whipping, Floyd knows and uses it to to keep going.
    Lying against the ropes, presenting first one shoulder then the other, is not fan friendly.
    Leading your opponent around the ring, waiting for him tire, while you throw jabs and the occasional counter is not fan friendly.
    I'm not saying I don't enjoy watching him work, it's just not fan friendly.

    Fenster, you are joking when you ask anyone to trust you, right?! Your icon, your handle and your gambling makes me want to check my wallet every time you post
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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    The United States has some good fighters on the rise: Deontay Wilder is young & untested but at 6'7 with a reach of 84" he's going to have a lot of fans once he hits "the big stage". Joe Hanks is a very good prospect, Seth Mitchell has looked very good for someone late to boxing. Bryant Jennings (although not my "cup of tea") is a solid boxer. Those are just the heavyweights, there's Shawn Porter, Mike Lee, Demetrius Andrade, and of course Adrian Broner will be the one with the "Flashy Flash" who will challenge for P4P #1 status.

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    Default Re: So who's the next "great American hope" in boxing?

    Maybe Adrian Broner. Jose Benavidez looks very impressive too but obviously a long way to go.

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