Romney vs. Obama - 2012 Presidential Debates - Let's score it!

[Kirkland Laing]

Obama lost the debate just on style last night. (I've seen a bunch of clips, not the whole thing.) Romney was engaged and on message, he didn't waste a word. Obama was hesitant, timid and looked like he didn't want to be there. The optics were terrible for Obama, he was hardly looking at Romney and Romney looked and sounded the part. So for the 95+% of Americans who don't know much or anything about the various policies, Romney won the debate easily.

Romney was either evasive about things he's full of shit on (tax cuts, spending etc.) or just outright full of shit (claiming his healthcare "policy" covers pre-existing conditions) and Obama just let him slide on everything. Absolutely piss poor performance by Obama. If he loses this election this debate will be seen as the turning point.

Will it move the needle in the election? This election comes down to about one million undecided people in half a dozen states, according to the political scientists. In these crucial half a dozen states Obama leads by 5-10 points. It'll be interesting to see if that changes over the next week when the new polls come out.

The race will tighten anyway regardless of how the debates go and this election will probably turn on which party can get their base to turn out to the polls in the biggest number.

[El Kabong]

Obama lost the debate just on style last night. (I've seen a bunch of clips, not the whole thing.) Romney was engaged and on message, he didn't waste a word. Obama was hesitant, timid and looked like he didn't want to be there. The optics were terrible for Obama, he was hardly looking at Romney and Romney looked and sounded the part. So for the 95+% of Americans who don't know much or anything about the various policies, Romney won the debate easily.

Romney was either evasive about things he's full of shit on (tax cuts, spending etc.) or just outright full of shit (claiming his healthcare "policy" covers pre-existing conditions) and Obama just let him slide on everything. Absolutely piss poor performance by Obama. If he loses this election this debate will be seen as the turning point.

Will it move the needle in the election? This election comes down to about one million undecided people in half a dozen states, according to the political scientists. In these crucial half a dozen states Obama leads by 5-10 points. It'll be interesting to see if that changes over the next week when the new polls come out.

The race will tighten anyway regardless of how the debates go and this election will probably turn on which party can get their base to turn out to the polls in the biggest number.

......WHEW....what a laugh...my stomach hurts from that one. The polls that show that are basing voter turnout on the 2008 election and I hate to be the one to break it to you but I'm having my doubts that the Democrats will be all that fired up this go round.

[Kirkland Laing]

Obama lost the debate just on style last night. (I've seen a bunch of clips, not the whole thing.) Romney was engaged and on message, he didn't waste a word. Obama was hesitant, timid and looked like he didn't want to be there. The optics were terrible for Obama, he was hardly looking at Romney and Romney looked and sounded the part. So for the 95+% of Americans who don't know much or anything about the various policies, Romney won the debate easily.

Romney was either evasive about things he's full of shit on (tax cuts, spending etc.) or just outright full of shit (claiming his healthcare "policy" covers pre-existing conditions) and Obama just let him slide on everything. Absolutely piss poor performance by Obama. If he loses this election this debate will be seen as the turning point.

Will it move the needle in the election? This election comes down to about one million undecided people in half a dozen states, according to the political scientists. In these crucial half a dozen states Obama leads by 5-10 points. It'll be interesting to see if that changes over the next week when the new polls come out.

The race will tighten anyway regardless of how the debates go and this election will probably turn on which party can get their base to turn out to the polls in the biggest number.

......WHEW....what a laugh...my stomach hurts from that one. The polls that show that are basing voter turnout on the 2008 election and I hate to be the one to break it to you but I'm having my doubts that the Democrats will be all that fired up this go round.

Show me cross tabs from a poll that shows it's based on 2008 turnout. Actual data from an actual poll rather than a link to some nonsense you read somewhere.

[El Kabong]

Show me cross tabs from a poll that shows it's based on 2008 turnout. Actual data from an actual poll rather than a link to some nonsense you read somewhere.

Bup, bup, bup....you provide your polls

[Kirkland Laing]

Show me cross tabs from a poll that shows it's based on 2008 turnout. Actual data from an actual poll rather than a link to some nonsense you read somewhere.

Bup, bup, bup....you provide your polls

You're the one making a claim about polls. I'm asking you to back your claim up. But you know doing so will mean exposing yourself to facts and evidence andif you read enough of them you'll discover, d'oh, you're wrong again. You're breaking out in hives just at the thought of factual stuff, aren't you?

[El Kabong]

Show me cross tabs from a poll that shows it's based on 2008 turnout. Actual data from an actual poll rather than a link to some nonsense you read somewhere.

Bup, bup, bup....you provide your polls

You're the one making a claim about polls. I'm asking you to back your claim up. But you know doing so will mean exposing yourself to facts and evidence andif you read enough of them you'll discover, d'oh, you're wrong again. You're breaking out in hives just at the thought of factual stuff, aren't you?

You made a claim that Obama is up 5-10% in battleground states.... provide the polls please

[Kirkland Laing]

Show me cross tabs from a poll that shows it's based on 2008 turnout. Actual data from an actual poll rather than a link to some nonsense you read somewhere.

Bup, bup, bup....you provide your polls

You're the one making a claim about polls. I'm asking you to back your claim up. But you know doing so will mean exposing yourself to facts and evidence andif you read enough of them you'll discover, d'oh, you're wrong again. You're breaking out in hives just at the thought of factual stuff, aren't you?

You made a claim that Obama is up 5-10% in battleground states.... provide the polls please

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Now, you claimed that the pollsters are basing Democrat participation on Democrat 2008 turnout. Provide actual data to back that up.