Do people actually think Marciano would beat Ali?

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Marciano come from behind KO in 13.

[TitoFan]

A followup question would be:

Why do people get so defensive, and take it as a slight to the great Marciano, when it is said that he would lose to Ali?

As was mentioned before, Ali outweighed Marciano by almost 40 pounds, had a 4-inch advantage in height, and far outreached Rocky. The physical differences alone are significant. Add to that the difference in speed, which Ali clearly had over Rocky... and it's not a reach to say Ali would beat him. Don't forget Ali had a pretty good chin, also.

It's not a knock on Marciano... it's just two different eras of boxing. By the same token, would Ali sweep through the Tysons, the Lewises, and the Klitschkos? Most likely not. Different eras... different sizes of heavyweights.

Picking Ali over Marciano is neither a slight on Marciano, nor an enshrinement of Ali.

[brocktonblockbust]

A followup question would be:

Why do people get so defensive, and take it as a slight to the great Marciano, when it is said that he would lose to Ali?

As was mentioned before, Ali outweighed Marciano by almost 40 pounds, had a 4-inch advantage in height, and far outreached Rocky. The physical differences alone are significant. Add to that the difference in speed, which Ali clearly had over Rocky... and it's not a reach to say Ali would beat him. Don't forget Ali had a pretty good chin, also.

It's not a knock on Marciano... it's just two different eras of boxing. By the same token, would Ali sweep through the Tysons, the Lewises, and the Klitschkos? Most likely not. Different eras... different sizes of heavyweights.

Picking Ali over Marciano is neither a slight on Marciano, nor an enshrinement of Ali.

EXCELLENT POINTS. NO I DONT TAKE IT FOR EXAMPLE JUST ME MYSELF---I DONT TAKE IT AS A SLIGHT ON rOCKY WHEN CONSIDERING THAT aLI WOULD BEAT HIM ---NO WAY--ACTUALLY ı FEEL THEY ARE IN 2 DIFFERENT DIVISIONS ENTIRELY---40 POUNDS DIFF AS YOU SAY IS TRULY AN UNFAIR FIGHT. ALİ CXOULD VERY WELL HAVE BEATEN HIM. BUT I THINK THEY WERE TOUGHER IN ROCKY'S DAY. HE JUST COULDNT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS TO LOSE. HE WOULD FIND A WAY. LIKE HE ALWAYS DID. YES HE IS BEHIND IN ALL CATEGORIES---BUT NOT CONDITIONING, NOT WILL TO WIN, NOT DETERMINATION, NOT TOUGHNESS, AND NOT POWER IN BOTH HANDS.

[Master]

A followup question would be:

Why do people get so defensive, and take it as a slight to the great Marciano, when it is said that he would lose to Ali?

As was mentioned before, Ali outweighed Marciano by almost 40 pounds, had a 4-inch advantage in height, and far outreached Rocky. The physical differences alone are significant. Add to that the difference in speed, which Ali clearly had over Rocky... and it's not a reach to say Ali would beat him. Don't forget Ali had a pretty good chin, also.

It's not a knock on Marciano... it's just two different eras of boxing. By the same token, would Ali sweep through the Tysons, the Lewises, and the Klitschkos? Most likely not. Different eras... different sizes of heavyweights.

Picking Ali over Marciano is neither a slight on Marciano, nor an enshrinement of Ali.

EXCELLENT POINTS. NO I DONT TAKE IT FOR EXAMPLE JUST ME MYSELF---I DONT TAKE IT AS A SLIGHT ON rOCKY WHEN CONSIDERING THAT aLI WOULD BEAT HIM ---NO WAY--ACTUALLY ı FEEL THEY ARE IN 2 DIFFERENT DIVISIONS ENTIRELY---40 POUNDS DIFF AS YOU SAY IS TRULY AN UNFAIR FIGHT. ALİ CXOULD VERY WELL HAVE BEATEN HIM. BUT I THINK THEY WERE TOUGHER IN ROCKY'S DAY. HE JUST COULDNT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS TO LOSE. HE WOULD FIND A WAY. LIKE HE ALWAYS DID. YES HE IS BEHIND IN ALL CATEGORIES---BUT NOT CONDITIONING, NOT WILL TO WIN, NOT DETERMINATION, NOT TOUGHNESS, AND NOT POWER IN BOTH HANDS.

I'll give you power and I agree with your main point but Ali had the conditioning, determination, toughness in him too but above that he has the skill.

[brocktonblockbust]

A followup question would be:

Why do people get so defensive, and take it as a slight to the great Marciano, when it is said that he would lose to Ali?

As was mentioned before, Ali outweighed Marciano by almost 40 pounds, had a 4-inch advantage in height, and far outreached Rocky. The physical differences alone are significant. Add to that the difference in speed, which Ali clearly had over Rocky... and it's not a reach to say Ali would beat him. Don't forget Ali had a pretty good chin, also.

It's not a knock on Marciano... it's just two different eras of boxing. By the same token, would Ali sweep through the Tysons, the Lewises, and the Klitschkos? Most likely not. Different eras... different sizes of heavyweights.

Picking Ali over Marciano is neither a slight on Marciano, nor an enshrinement of Ali.

EXCELLENT POINTS. NO I DONT TAKE IT FOR EXAMPLE JUST ME MYSELF---I DONT TAKE IT AS A SLIGHT ON rOCKY WHEN CONSIDERING THAT aLI WOULD BEAT HIM ---NO WAY--ACTUALLY ı FEEL THEY ARE IN 2 DIFFERENT DIVISIONS ENTIRELY---40 POUNDS DIFF AS YOU SAY IS TRULY AN UNFAIR FIGHT. ALİ CXOULD VERY WELL HAVE BEATEN HIM. BUT I THINK THEY WERE TOUGHER IN ROCKY'S DAY. HE JUST COULDNT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS TO LOSE. HE WOULD FIND A WAY. LIKE HE ALWAYS DID. YES HE IS BEHIND IN ALL CATEGORIES---BUT NOT CONDITIONING, NOT WILL TO WIN, NOT DETERMINATION, NOT TOUGHNESS, AND NOT POWER IN BOTH HANDS.

I'll give you power and I agree with your main point but Ali had the conditioning, determination, toughness in him too but above that he has the skill.

ı know Rocky would have the toughest fıght of hıs career agaınst Ali and may ındeed lose the fıght.
ı know Ali had the psychological advantage agaınst hıs ooponents too.
ı thınk Rocky was tougher than Frazıer however. and Joe beat Ali. and nearly beat hım agaın ın theır 3rd fıght.
therefore ı thınk Rocky may beat Ali. But Ali wouldve been the bıggest opponent the Rock ever had faced. At 6 ft 3 ınches and 215 pouds.
And 83 ınches reach agaıst Rocky's dısmal 67 ınches. Jesus thats 16 ınches reach advantage.
Pıcture Ali tryıng to punch downwards on Marciano.
I thınk thats an awkward punchıng posıtıon for Muhammad. Not natural for hım. Not hıs fıght.
I say even wıth thıs sıze advantage Ali only outpoınts Rocky 5 tımes out of 10.
Ali stops Rocky on cuts 1 or 2 tımes out of 10.
Marciano blows Ali away 3 or 4 tımes out of 10.
Joe Frazier was 1 of the toughest sons of bıtches I ever saw fıght.
But no way does Joe fıght on wıth a splıt nose lıke Rocky had. Rocky was tougher.