Best trainer, living or dead?

[beenKOed]

Dundee and Roach are great trainers, but their major stars were already good boxers (I think I would be remembered as a great trainer if I had Muhammad Ali, Ray Leonard or Manny Pacquiao in my stable).

No disrespect to those guys, but I really rate some of the old timers who had to slog their way through life and created a mega star on their way - people like Chappie Blackburn, Eddie Futch or Charley Goldman.

I wouldn't argue with anyone's picks, but look at the list of pro fighters Ignacio Beristain trained, they are almost all champions plus 4 or 5 are in the Hall of Fame. He's amazing, and in my opinion, head and shoulders above the rest.
I'm watching Virgil Hunter, I want to see what he does with Khan and Angulo.