Mike Tyson prime vs David tua prime

[Glinchdogg]

Yeah I agree Tyson was one of the best, pity he fucked it up a few times.
I like tua he has a great chin
But I think 8/10 times Tyson wins
Knockout

[chris6878]

The tua-man gets a bizness card from tyson

[Dark Lord Al]

Who did Tyson beat who was in his prime , great chin , and big puncher ?

Tyson fans please tell us ?

[DavilaJones]

Regrettably the one thing most boxing fans forget is that a boxer's discipline is a quantifiable trait that boxers posses. One simply cannot say "if only he trained harder for every fight" or "if he wasn't always blown up in weight" or etc... It would be as if one were to say "If only Amir Khan had Vitali's chin' or "Paulie Malignaggi had Earnie Shavers punching power."

By that same token how a boxer behaves outside the ring is an inherit trait.

[chris6878]

Who did Tyson beat who was in his prime , great chin , and big puncher ?

Tyson fans please tell us ?

Who was there he could fight. Did he avoid anyone

[ICB]

Who did Tyson beat who was in his prime , great chin , and big puncher ?

Tyson fans please tell us ?

Razor Ruddock.

[Glinchdogg]

[QUOTE=ICB;1103648][QUOTE=Dark Lord Al;1103631]Who did Tyson beat who was in his prime , great chin , and big puncher ?

Tyson fans please tell us ?

He fought everyone in his era did he not?
Can't really blame him for who was about at the time
Hence the point if this thread

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

That was one of the best potential fights of the 90's! Very evenly matched fighters (tua has a slightly bigger frame though) problem with tyson was he never did anything in the 90's really..I wish we would have had i.e holy v tua, tyson v ike etc!

When holyfield put on a few lbs of muscle he was able to bully tyson, what would a 235lb tua do? Tyson got frustrated easily too and was kayoed and even rocked by men who didn't remotely have tua's power. Tua was avoided like hell!

Tua also had a granite chin which was something tyson lacked. The obvious pick would be Tyson. Tua has never held the title. But, after studying these two for a while, I'm not so sure.

They are very similar so the logical thing to do is look at their differences. Tyson has fast hands but poor stamina. He fades after 6 rounds and, depending on his opponent, he MIGHT do well after that. Tua is too patient and has average hand speed but he goes into the late rounds with a good reserve of energy.

Naturally, if Tua could extend Tyson into the later rounds he could win. The question now remains if Tua can survive Tyson's early assult and take his punch. Tua has never been knocked down or out (until recently) and he has only been shaken by monster puncher Ike Ibeabuchi, who is one of the most monstrous fighters in the last 20 years and that was an even fight.

I believe Tua would survive Tyson's early assult. He's too lazy for anyone to believe he could overcome a raging Dynamo like Tyson. However, it's not hard to believe that Tua could survive Tyson early. He would likely be motivated for Tyson, unlike for many of his other opponents.

I don't see Tyson finishing Tua early. He took the best that Ike Ibeabuchi had to offer and I think Ike is every bit as tough as Tyson.

If David is motivated, he would be able to survive early Tyson. Now the question is if Tyson can survive late David. What I do see is Tyson's tank running empty before the final bell. Tua has not shown that tendacy.

Given that, I'll go out on the limb and make my pick.

Tua by TKO in 11.

[ross]

That was one of the best potential fights of the 90's! Very evenly matched fighters (tua has a slightly bigger frame though) problem with tyson was he never did anything in the 90's really..I wish we would have had i.e holy v tua, tyson v ike etc!

When holyfield put on a few lbs of muscle he was able to bully tyson, what would a 235lb tua do? Tyson got frustrated easily too and was kayoed and even rocked by men who didn't remotely have tua's power. Tua was avoided like hell!

Tua also had a granite chin which was something tyson lacked. The obvious pick would be Tyson. Tua has never held the title. But, after studying these two for a while, I'm not so sure.

They are very similar so the logical thing to do is look at their differences. Tyson has fast hands but poor stamina. He fades after 6 rounds and, depending on his opponent, he MIGHT do well after that. Tua is too patient and has average hand speed but he goes into the late rounds with a good reserve of energy.

Naturally, if Tua could extend Tyson into the later rounds he could win. The question now remains if Tua can survive Tyson's early assult and take his punch. Tua has never been knocked down or out (until recently) and he has only been shaken by monster puncher Ike Ibeabuchi, who is one of the most monstrous fighters in the last 20 years and that was an even fight.

I believe Tua would survive Tyson's early assult. He's too lazy for anyone to believe he could overcome a raging Dynamo like Tyson. However, it's not hard to believe that Tua could survive Tyson early. He would likely be motivated for Tyson, unlike for many of his other opponents.

I don't see Tyson finishing Tua early. He took the best that Ike Ibeabuchi had to offer and I think Ike is every bit as tough as Tyson.

If David is motivated, he would be able to survive early Tyson. Now the question is if Tyson can survive late David. What I do see is Tyson's tank running empty before the final bell. Tua has not shown that tendacy.

Given that, I'll go out on the limb and make my pick.

Tua by TKO in 11.

Are you for real?

I would have highlighted all the shit but itd take ages.

Tua had a bigger frame? He was even smaller than Tyson! Just fatter!

As for Tyson not having as good a chin as Tua.....

Mike had no stamina! For fuck sakes... Even when getting stopped by Holyfield when he wasnt the same fighter that train right in the eighties and after being out for 4 years he was still there swining hard in the 11th! Against Douglas when he was hardly training at all and getting dropped hy sparring partners he was still fighting hard in the 10th.

Tyson has an amazing combination of some of the very best attributes youd want in a fighter and this is against all the fighters in history. His speed, footwork, head movement, defence, chin, power and agression are all among the best ever.

Tua was a fat lump that could cover up and throw left hooks and thats it. He never even wan a title and was never anything.

[Nameless]

If it's a prime Tyson, no offense to Tua but he's getting steam rolled inside of 4. Tua was a very hard pucher but Tyson was perhaps hitting harder plus he was faster, more dynamic and his 2-3-4 combos were just devastating. There is no way Tua could have better than "from slim to none" chances in that one.

[Syntax Error]

I'd take Tyson on points curiously enough.

I know we're talking about 2 huge punchers here, but they both had excellent chins.

I think Tyson's greater handspeed, head movement & punch combinations would seal it, as Tua was a bit over reliant on his Left hook.

[Bobthepen]

Baffled by people that rate Tua so highly.

[Beanflicker]

Prime Tyson eats Prime Tua for lunch, and I'm a big fan of the large Samoan.

Tyson was superior to Tua in pretty much every way. Tua had huge power, sure, but not much in the way of boxing skill or ring generalship. Tyson, beyond his brutal power, had solid fundamentals, hand speed and a solid, snap your head off your shoulders-type jab. He was a vicious body puncher as well.

Tua had a great left hook, but his right hand left a lot to be desired IMO. Tyson could easily knock your head off with either hand, using any punch.

People talk about how Tyson was a bully, that he couldn't stand people fighting back. I say that's bullshit. Tyson took BOMBS from guys like Frank Bruno and Razor Ruddock, and fought on to win. Tyson had a great chin - even the times where he was KO'd, it was after an accumulation of punishment.

I like Tua, and I know he had the power to beat anyone if he landed that left hook flush on the jaw, but if you think prime Tua beats prime Tyson I think you need your head examined.

[ross]

Tua is strong and chugs forward but when he experinces the speed of the shots coming at him, he would cover up even more than he did against Lewis and I doubt he makes it anywhere near the half way point.

Tua just isnt skilled enough for someone with Mikes speed.

YouTube - david tua vs felix savon

[Dark Lord Al]

Tua is strong and chugs forward but when he experinces the speed of the shots coming at him, he would cover up even more than he did against Lewis and I doubt he makes it anywhere near the half way point.

Tua just isnt skilled enough for someone with Mikes speed.

YouTube - david tua vs felix savon

Tua was a teenager in that fight , would u like to find footage of a teenage Tyson being KOED by Al chico Evans ? a bum ?