Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

in Frazier's defense, neither Klitschko has the one punch power of Foreman

Mate seriously....come on!

George Foreman was INDEED one of the hardest punchers and his KO abilities are very good. He probably is a harder puncher in a 'P4P' sense....but to suggest he is more powerful than either 245lb brother is just silly! Prime foreman was considered the SHW of his day! Today he would an be average sized HW no bigger tha haye or adamek!

His power looked more impressive because he was fighting mainly smaller men....i mean he couldn't even KO china chinned morrison! Foreman and Wlad had 3 common opponents: Schulz, Martin and Young:

Opponent-Wladimir Klitschko's result-George Foreman's result:

·Axel Schulz KO8 MD12 (Robbery)
·Everett Martin KO8 UD10
·Mark Young KO2 (RTD2) TKO7

This shows a clear power superiority of Wladimir. This was the comeback foreman of course but his power had not diminishished.

Adittionally note that 13 people survived fights with Foreman. But only 3 survived against Wlad.

Prime George Foreman (median weight 217 lbs) would be Wladimir Klitschko's bottom-10 LIGHTEST opponent EVER and Vitali Klitschko's bottom-3 LIGHTEST opponent!

Probably the easiest way to convince good-old-time nostalgists of the superiority of Klitschko (compared to Foreman) is to mention that George Foreman has scored only 3 KOs in world championship fights 200×2, whereas Wladimir Klitschko has scored approximately 5 times as many.

Thankyou.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Athletes in boxing today are vastly superior to the old timers in most cases:





Yes they sometimes may not be as entertaining as the 'good old days' and less willing to risk there health etc but then again it is 2012. Boxers are more scientific nowadays, the training and nutrition has moved on, but yes u can't fault the old timers for heart and guts!

[TitoFan]

What next, a "Floyd Patterson vs. Wlad" thread?

[Spicoli]

in Frazier's defense, neither Klitschko has the one punch power of Foreman

Mate seriously....come on!

George Foreman was INDEED one of the hardest punchers and his KO abilities are very good. He probably is a harder puncher in a 'P4P' sense....but to suggest he is more powerful than either 245lb brother is just silly! Prime foreman was considered the SHW of his day! Today he would an be average sized HW no bigger tha haye or adamek!

His power looked more impressive because he was fighting mainly smaller men....i mean he couldn't even KO china chinned morrison! Foreman and Wlad had 3 common
opponents: Schulz, Martin and Young:

Opponent-Wladimir Klitschko's result-George Foreman's result:

·Axel Schulz KO8 MD12 (Robbery)
·Everett Martin KO8 UD10
·Mark Young KO2 (RTD2) TKO7

This shows a clear power superiority of Wladimir. This was the comeback foreman of course but his power had not diminishished.

Adittionally note that 13 people survived fights with Foreman. But only 3 survived against Wlad.

Prime George Foreman (median weight 217 lbs) would be Wladimir Klitschko's bottom-10 LIGHTEST opponent EVER and Vitali Klitschko's bottom-3 LIGHTEST opponent!

Probably the easiest way to convince good-old-time nostalgists of the superiority of Klitschko (compared to Foreman) is to mention that George Foreman has scored only 3 KOs in world championship fights 200×2, whereas Wladimir Klitschko has scored approximately 5 times as many.

Thankyou.

I don't know for the life of me how you draw any clean cut superiority in trumping up names like a Mark Young and Bigfoot Martin. Who hasn't knocked Young out bud? By that logic everyones favorite punching bag Mike acey flattened him before both so is he in the neighborhood of big hitters? Wlad is so superior he had to fight Martin not once but twice to get him out. Considering Wlad had had about three times as many title fights, (excluding the wbu and stepping stone trinkets for both) than Foreman so yeh, obviously it would seem he would have more
kos. That's just loaded.

Both have a somewhat methodical and calculated delivery with power. Foreman has had two careers with it and came back as a mentally superior fighter he was in his youth. Wlad has seemingly done it likewise, matured, without the ten year absence. Both worked off jab and varied in delivery. Wlad has literally won fights on a jab and seemed content to do it and could paw it. I think he could do even better if he would let the right come off of it far more but he is ever the calculator. Foremans jab was a telephone pole follow usually with a debilitating uppercut or that half chop half cross. Power is great and all but when you think power you think hurt with nearly every clean shot landed. Foreman had that.