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    Default Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fightscorecollector View Post
    I have not read all thepost on this thread apart from the Original post.

    Frazier vs Wlad.....205lbs or Frazier vs 240lbs of Wlad??

    size would come into it..YES you would be crazy not to mention it although smokin Joe did KO bigger guys eg Buster Mathis who was 243lbs

    The only guy that was able to keep Frazier away from him was Foreman...Ali couldnt do it and im very sure Wlad wouldnt be able to do it...why??

    Foreman was a walk forward bomber who stood his ground, that is simply not Wlads style. Wlad tends to take his time and tries to wear down his oppoenent for a later stoppage.(box off back foot)

    Frazier would make Wlad work like never before, if that left hook land clean enough then it all over. Wlad is too wooden and safety first to beat a prime frazier. Wlad would need to land a massive massive punch to win as Frazier would outwork and outfight him. It might be close for 7-8 rounds DUE to Wlads size but he hast fought anything like the machine Frazier was in his prime.

    Smokin Joe would win probably by a Ko anywhere between 10-15 rounds
    You remember how vs Ali many comments were made about Joe taking 3 punches to land one, granted that night he made it work but vs Wladimir you're simply not going to want to get hit at a 3 to 1 ratio. Wladimir controls pace and distance with his jab which is powerful and accurate. Frazier's defense was mostly about bobbing up and down and subtley slipping punches at a distance in order to leap in with the big left hook....you don't want to leap in when there's a right cross barrelling down on you from a fighter like Wlad. I respect Joe Frazier, he was a great fighter but styles make fights and Frazier is a 1 armed fighter unless he can get in on the inside with the short right hand and vs Wladimir he simply wouldn't be able to do that.
    i understand what you are saying although you have to think of Ali's speed of punch compared to Wlad's. Total night and day. I think Frazier wouldnt have been hit with as many as Ali hit with. Vs Wlad i just think he is too wooden to keep Joe off him effectivley for 15 rounds.
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    Default Re: Joe frazier (rip) would be the smallest opponent wlad....

    Quote Originally Posted by fightscorecollector View Post
    i understand what you are saying although you have to think of Ali's speed of punch compared to Wlad's. Total night and day. I think Frazier wouldnt have been hit with as many as Ali hit with. Vs Wlad i just think he is too wooden to keep Joe off him effectivley for 15 rounds.
    Wlad wouldn't flurry the way Ali did but he could double and triple the jab if need be and nobody is just going to walk right through that jab of his. Wlad can also hook off the jab to keep Frazier's angles managable and the right cross when landed would rock Frazier. I don't think it would take 15 rounds the way both these guys fight. Also Joe Frazier starts fights slowly, giving Wlad a foothold and allowing him to win rounds is not a great idea.

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