4 months in prison for wearing a hateful t-shirt....yay for free speech Britain!

[Gandalf]

Of course, I think most people have their own natural inclination to just want to get on with life without too much fuss. Most of us prefer to avoid confrontation in our daily lives. Like I say, the guy wearing that t-shirt is a complete twit and it is something I would never do myself. All I am arguing though is that people should have the right to express themselves in inflammatory ways. Few people would ever bother with doing it though as friends and family keep you in check. I dislike the law being involved in such instances as I believe it is a law that can be used for all the wrong reasons. Wearing a t-shirt saying 'The Queen needs a guillotine' should never be a crime, but me smashing up someones favorite Jubilee mug definitely should be.

But with most of the thread you start on here about America and religion in general, would you not say that you come on here just for that purpose. To cause confrontation with some of the members on here.

No, not at all. I just try to present what I view as my own honest take on the world. If others disagree with me, then that is just part of the process. I have to say what I believe about whatever is concerning me at a given time. That is freedom of speech, anyone can disagree with me and that is all too often the case. The process of confrontation isn't something I enjoy though and I really don't want to upset anybody. The process is something that I have to go through though and I push myself through it. I do restrain my thread starting an awful lot too. I read a lot during the day and let most of it slide.

[Ghost]

Of course, I think most people have their own natural inclination to just want to get on with life without too much fuss. Most of us prefer to avoid confrontation in our daily lives. Like I say, the guy wearing that t-shirt is a complete twit and it is something I would never do myself. All I am arguing though is that people should have the right to express themselves in inflammatory ways. Few people would ever bother with doing it though as friends and family keep you in check. I dislike the law being involved in such instances as I believe it is a law that can be used for all the wrong reasons. Wearing a t-shirt saying 'The Queen needs a guillotine' should never be a crime, but me smashing up someones favorite Jubilee mug definitely should be.

But with most of the thread you start on here about America and religion in general, would you not say that you come on here just for that purpose. To cause confrontation with some of the members on here.

No, not at all. I just try to present what I view as my own honest take on the world. If others disagree with me, then that is just part of the process. I have to say what I believe about whatever is concerning me at a given time. That is freedom of speech, anyone can disagree with me and that is all too often the case. The process of confrontation isn't something I enjoy though and I really don't want to upset anybody. The process is something that I have to go through though and I push myself through it. I do restrain my thread starting an awful lot too. I read a lot during the day and let most of it slide.

Really do not see the difference here Miles, between you and the guy with the T'Shit, except maybe in the timing.

[Gandalf]

Of course, I think most people have their own natural inclination to just want to get on with life without too much fuss. Most of us prefer to avoid confrontation in our daily lives. Like I say, the guy wearing that t-shirt is a complete twit and it is something I would never do myself. All I am arguing though is that people should have the right to express themselves in inflammatory ways. Few people would ever bother with doing it though as friends and family keep you in check. I dislike the law being involved in such instances as I believe it is a law that can be used for all the wrong reasons. Wearing a t-shirt saying 'The Queen needs a guillotine' should never be a crime, but me smashing up someones favorite Jubilee mug definitely should be.

But with most of the thread you start on here about America and religion in general, would you not say that you come on here just for that purpose. To cause confrontation with some of the members on here.

No, not at all. I just try to present what I view as my own honest take on the world. If others disagree with me, then that is just part of the process. I have to say what I believe about whatever is concerning me at a given time. That is freedom of speech, anyone can disagree with me and that is all too often the case. The process of confrontation isn't something I enjoy though and I really don't want to upset anybody. The process is something that I have to go through though and I push myself through it. I do restrain my thread starting an awful lot too. I read a lot during the day and let most of it slide.

Really do not see the difference here Miles, between you and the guy with the T'Shit, except maybe in the timing.

People should be free to say what they want and in that way I am probably very similar to him. I support that point of view. The difference is that I would rather argue my point in a paragraph rather than on a t-shirt. You know, I support anyone arguing a point that they believe in. Well, the belief not always the post, that is a different matter. And at the same time a t-shirt will suffice for some and you just have to accept that, or in the draconian sense of the UK law, not at all.

It amazes me how a man in a t-shirt can do more time than a man that supposedly spent his entire life touching up teenagers and boy scouts.