Romney vs. Obama Debate - Part II on Tuesday - let's score it!

[El Kabong]

Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again.

....you don't say

[Mars_ax]

Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again.

....you don't say

BO's "plan" is to criticize Romney's plans, and cover up the fact that he doesn't have one, other then the same old shit that's already failed.

[El Kabong]

Didn't know if I should post this here or in the "oft uttered bullshit" post....here you go

Obama's 2008 Town Hall Debate Promises

"I'm voting FOR Barack Obama, because I enjoy disappointment" - Democrat Voter

[Youngblood]

Romney finally releases details of his tax plan!

For all the details on Mitt Romney's 5 trillion dollar tax plan visit ROMNEYTAXPLAN.COM

[Gandalf]

Nice one YB, you saucy little bitch! So funny!

[Kirkland Laing]

Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again.

....you don't say

How about replying to the question I asked?

[El Kabong]

Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again.

....you don't say

How about replying to the question I asked?

Which one would that be Mr. "I don't watch videos" ......was there a pie chart with it? Or some sort of graph? Because if there was that would really narrow it down.

[El Kabong]

Presidential election debate: Barack Obama is taking a big gamble with voters to try to win back the momentum from Mitt Romney. - Slate Magazine

So Barry is going to tell us everything is headed in the right direction and he expects us to be ok with that


If that doesn't show how fucking incompotent Obama is I don't know what will

[Mars_ax]

Presidential election debate: Barack Obama is taking a big gamble with voters to try to win back the momentum from Mitt Romney. - Slate Magazine

So Barry is going to tell us everything is headed in the right direction and he expects us to be ok with that


If that doesn't show how fucking incompotent Obama is I don't know what will

I'm looking forward to watching this debate tonight - I think the writing is on the wall for Obama, especially after Hillary took the blame for Benghazi, instead of where it should have fallen, squarely on Obama's puny shoulders. The "magic mulatto" would have to pull a rabbit out of his ass to convince the majority of voters that he's anything other then a fucking unqualified to lead, fraud.

[Kirkland Laing]

Obama doesn't have much of a plan to get the economy going again.

....you don't say

How about replying to the question I asked?

Which one would that be Mr. "I don't watch videos" ......was there a pie chart with it? Or some sort of graph? Because if there was that would really narrow it down.

What do you think Romney can do that Obama hasn't done? What is this five point plan you speak of?

Also, too. You don't think government is capable of doing anything better than the private sector. We've suffered a massive recession/economic collapse over the last few years and you expect government to solve this problem? How? And how can you believe that government should be able to solve the biggest economic collapse since the Depression in four years but they can't do anything else better than the private sector?

These questions also are to Mars Ax and anybody else attacking Obama and thinking Romney has all the answers.

[El Kabong]

What do you think Romney can do that Obama hasn't done? What is this five point plan you speak of?

Also, too. You don't think government is capable of doing anything better than the private sector. We've suffered a massive recession/economic collapse over the last few years and you expect government to solve this problem? How? And how can you believe that government should be able to solve the biggest economic collapse since the Depression in four years but they can't do anything else better than the private sector?

These questions also are to Mars Ax and anybody else attacking Obama and thinking Romney has all the answers.

The 5 Point Plan is: Energy Independence, Proper Education/Training, More Trade that's Beneficial to America, Cutting the Deficet, and Championing Small Business. There's a number of points he goes over to say how he will accomplish these things, but that's the jist of it. I would have listed them but I am not of the opinion that you're interested in facts.....if you were you wouldn't side with Obama like you do.

OK Mr. More Government....if Government can't solve this economic issue then why do you support a President who thinks Government has all the solutions? All Mitt Romney said he was going to do is to take the handcuffs off of small businesses, he's going to allow them to do business with less oppressive regulation. But hey maybe we need another Stimulus huh? I mean it worked SOOOOO well for us.

Romney has a plan, Obama doesn't.....or does he Kirkland, perhaps YOU can tell us what Obama won't? Perhaps you can tell us how Barack Obama plans to turn around this economy because I certainly didn't hear any ideas from him last night all I heard was him bitching about Romney's ideas.

[Kirkland Laing]

What do you think Romney can do that Obama hasn't done? What is this five point plan you speak of?

Also, too. You don't think government is capable of doing anything better than the private sector. We've suffered a massive recession/economic collapse over the last few years and you expect government to solve this problem? How? And how can you believe that government should be able to solve the biggest economic collapse since the Depression in four years but they can't do anything else better than the private sector?

These questions also are to Mars Ax and anybody else attacking Obama and thinking Romney has all the answers.

The 5 Point Plan is: Energy Independence, Proper Education/Training, More Trade that's Beneficial to America, Cutting the Deficet, and Championing Small Business. There's a number of points he goes over to say how he will accomplish these things, but that's the jist of it. I would have listed them but I am not of the opinion that you're interested in facts.....if you were you wouldn't side with Obama like you do.

OK Mr. More Government....if Government can't solve this economic issue then why do you support a President who thinks Government has all the solutions? All Mitt Romney said he was going to do is to take the handcuffs off of small businesses, he's going to allow them to do business with less oppressive regulation. But hey maybe we need another Stimulus huh? I mean it worked SOOOOO well for us.

Romney has a plan, Obama doesn't.....or does he Kirkland, perhaps YOU can tell us what Obama won't? Perhaps you can tell us how Barack Obama plans to turn around this economy because I certainly didn't hear any ideas from him last night all I heard was him bitching about Romney's ideas.

Ah, the five point plan.

"Energy independence"

This is a perfect example of the GOP using a bullshit argument to win votes from clueless people who think that America can solve its energy problem/reduce the price of gasoline by domestic drilling. . What point number one is really about is allowing drilling in enviromentally protected areas like northern Alaska. But even if you allow drilling in places the oil industry want to drill, it'll only increase oil production by about a million barrels a day and take ten years to get there. In the meantime America's oil consumption will go up five or million barrels. And oil is a global product with the price set by a cartel (OPEC) who would just cut production to keep the global price the same anyway even if America did manage to produce vast new oil supplies. So because the electorate is made up of a bunch of know-nothings the debate about energy in America is at second grade level.

Education.

Romney’s budget plan could cut more than $115 billion from the Department of Education over the next 10 years, cutting K-12 and special education funding by nearly $5 billion and leaving nearly 10 million students with $1,000 less each in Pell Grant funding. He plans to voucherize America’s public education system while offering no plan to fix failing public schools. And how does this create jobs over the next four/eight years exactly?


Trade that's beneficial to A,erica.

What is this, trade agreements or posturing by bashing Cjina? If it's trade agreements then they benefit America by exporting jobs to Asia and benefit US corporations by them not having to pay US labour rates. Both parties make these agreements and so they're both anti-US jobs. How can you complain about Clinton signing NAFTA but Ronmey is suddenly creating jobs by signing NAFTA-like agreements?

It it's pretending to bash China __

When Obama took action against the Chinese dumping cheap tyres in America Romney called it "bad for our nation and our workers." Obama and McCain played the same anti-China card at the last election and they didn't mean it either. No US president is ever going to prevent US corporations -- the people who put them in the White House -- from making massive profits by manufacturing in China. If Romney wins he'll make one single gesture about Chinese dumping of goods -- Obama did tyres and Bush did steel -- and then that'll be it.

Cutting the deficit.

The only president in living memory who cut government spending is Obama. Romney's tax plan will add five trillion to the deficit/debt over the next ten years and he's also going to give the Pentagon an extra two trillion they didn't even ask for. How is this going to cut the debt? What Romney will do is do the tax cuts without ending any of the loopholes which will explode the deficit.

Small businesses.

There have been eighteen separate tax cuts for small businesses under Obama but it's not really helping them. What they need are more customers with money to spend. And what's all this new regulation that Obama has imposed? This is just more bollocks.

Basically it's just five talking points to fool the rubes and Romney clearly knows his market, doesn't he?

As far as having a plan neither guy has a plan. And that's because there's very little either guy can do. The biggest thing either of them could do is allow mass renegotiation of underwater/bad mortgages but the banks won't let either prez do that. Other than that we've just got to wait for the debt overhang to subside enough so that households start spending again (70% of the economy is consumer spending) but until they make a big hole in their debt households aren't going to spend like they used to :

[VictorCharlie]

"Education.

Romney’s budget plan could cut more than $115 billion from the Department of Education over the next 10 years, cutting K-12 and special education funding by nearly $5 billion and leaving nearly 10 million students with $1,000 less each in Pell Grant funding. He plans to voucherize America’s public education system while offering no plan to fix failing public schools. And how does this create jobs over the next four/eight years exactly?"

The DoE should be done away with. The federal government should have no role in education and the states should do a better job of creating their own revenue for education. You can champion spending all you want but we have had a meteoric rise in education spending but our standardized test scores have stagnated. Money is not the problem. I am skeptical of anyone actually doing a voucher program but it is exactly what we need. We need education decisions put in the most local hands. Parents, school boards and at the most the state education departments. Create competition and creativity in education systems and give parents vouchers so that they can choose for themselves where their children go to school. The Democrats are horribly wrong in this area. The rich will always make sure their kids go to a good school but a voucher system is the only way impoverished and middle class families can do this. If the Democratic party was actually for helping the middle class and poor they would support vouchers whole heartedly but instead they take big payoffs from teacher unions.