Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez calls out Sergio Martinez for May 4 showdown

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I don't know, I think it would be a hell of a matchup. Alvarez can really fight imo, he is a lot better than Chavez Jr, and while he hasn't been in with any elite guys he's still better prepared than Jr was. The only other guy as or more dangerous to Martinez at 160 might be Golovkin, but this is certainly a worthy fight and kudos to Saul if he's serious about wanting it.

[Rantcatrat]

This is all posturing by Canelo. He made this statement immediately after Martinez decides to undergo surgery on his right knee. From Josesito Lopez to Sergio Martinez? His handlers would be fools to let that happen. Even against undersized foes, has Canelo ever faced a guy who can move?

[beenKOed]

I don't know, I think it would be a hell of a matchup. Alvarez can really fight imo, he is a lot better than Chavez Jr, and while he hasn't been in with any elite guys he's still better prepared than Jr was. The only other guy as or more dangerous to Martinez at 160 might be Golovkin, but this is certainly a worthy fight and kudos to Saul if he's serious about wanting it.

Once in a while you say what I'm thinking. Hell, this is a fight every fight fan will want to see, didn't someone ask him to "step up" a couple of days ago. Maybe Canelo follows this forum, he's picking up English pretty fast so maybe he's reading it too--doubtful but stranger things happen. I don't think Canelo would challenge Martinez unless he was sure he could win, but you never know maybe the money, or the challenge, or the fans are what drives him.

[outspoken]

He should fight Chavez Jr. or the winner of Cotto vs Trout.. then go after Martinez.

[Kirkland Laing]

I can't see Golden Boy putting him in with an elite fighter for his next fight. I think he'll have one or two more against Kirkland/Angulo types to get him ready to step up. Meanwhile Martinez, Cotto, Mayweather all get older and more beatable.

[Spicoli]

I can't see Golden Boy putting him in with an elite fighter for his next fight. I think he'll have one or two more against Kirkland/Angulo types to get him ready to step up. Meanwhile Martinez, Cotto, Mayweather all get older and more beatable.

I get the strange feel like he's a fighter seeing it-those pass him by as he stays on the same level in opposition and arguably taking a sideways though 'dominate' step in his last fight. That entire scenario was a mess. He may be bored and if fans are lucky he's having frustrations with GBP. But you just cant expect to go from the comforts of the neighborhood community swimming pool to the Olympic high dive overnight.

[beenKOed]

I can't see Golden Boy putting him in with an elite fighter for his next fight. I think he'll have one or two more against Kirkland/Angulo types to get him ready to step up. Meanwhile Martinez, Cotto, Mayweather all get older and more beatable.

You guys are never happy, first you want him to "step up", but when he does you complain that he's moving too fast.
Let me get this straight, now you think a steady but cautious advance is the way to go, right?
You can't have it both ways!

[Spicoli]

I can't see Golden Boy putting him in with an elite fighter for his next fight. I think he'll have one or two more against Kirkland/Angulo types to get him ready to step up. Meanwhile Martinez, Cotto, Mayweather all get older and more beatable.

You guys are never happy, first you want him to "step up", but when he does you complain that he's moving too fast.
Let me get this straight, now you think a steady but cautious advance is the way to go, right?
You can't have it both ways!

Neither could Chavez jr. But in fairness Canelo and Chavez approach and professionalism couldn't be further apart. You can arguably say Canelo has never been tested, I don't think Martinez would be a wise first acid test realistically.

[beenKOed]

I can't see Golden Boy putting him in with an elite fighter for his next fight. I think he'll have one or two more against Kirkland/Angulo types to get him ready to step up. Meanwhile Martinez, Cotto, Mayweather all get older and more beatable.

You guys are never happy, first you want him to "step up", but when he does you complain that he's moving too fast.
Let me get this straight, now you think a steady but cautious advance is the way to go, right?
You can't have it both ways!

Neither could Chavez jr. But in fairness Canelo and Chavez approach and professionalism couldn't be further apart. You can arguably say Canelo has never been tested, I don't think Martinez would be a wise first acid test realistically.

I hope we get a chance to find out, Martinez is starting to get the kind of paydays he should. There are some great fights waiting to happen next year, it's an exciting time in boxing.
Personally, I think the steady but cautious advance is the best way, especially with a gold mine like Canelo, but he could look like a winner against Marteniz even if he loses, by winning a few rounds and looking like he's in the fight. One thing I'm sure of, is that he will do better than Chavez Jr.

[Rantcatrat]

I can't see Golden Boy putting him in with an elite fighter for his next fight. I think he'll have one or two more against Kirkland/Angulo types to get him ready to step up. Meanwhile Martinez, Cotto, Mayweather all get older and more beatable.

You guys are never happy, first you want him to "step up", but when he does you complain that he's moving too fast.
Let me get this straight, now you think a steady but cautious advance is the way to go, right?
You can't have it both ways!

No one would complain about a Martinez - Canelo fight (just Canelo when the fight was done )

[Kirkland Laing]

I can't see Golden Boy putting him in with an elite fighter for his next fight. I think he'll have one or two more against Kirkland/Angulo types to get him ready to step up. Meanwhile Martinez, Cotto, Mayweather all get older and more beatable.

You guys are never happy, first you want him to "step up", but when he does you complain that he's moving too fast.
Let me get this straight, now you think a steady but cautious advance is the way to go, right?
You can't have it both ways!

I'm not knocking Alvarez at all, I really like him and I'm looking forward to watching the rest of his career. I'm sure he wants to fight Martinez, Mayweather, Cotto and so on right now. Those are three enormous money PPV fights for everybody concerned.

But I don't think his promoters are going to risk it yet. Alvarez is a potential absolute goldmine for them and gradually giving him more seasoning before he hits elite level while at the same time letting the elite fighters get older and take more dings is the smart move for Golden Boy.