Romney vs. Obama Debate - Part II on Tuesday - let's score it!

[El Kabong]

Oooh a graph....color me surprised

Kirkland just face the facts Barack Obama is a terrible President, he broke his promises, he missed out on his unemployment numbers by 9,000,000 jobs, 3,000,000 MORE women are living below the poverty line thanks to his policies, and he has the audacity to try and spin this whole "Binders of women" deal into his favor.

Energy Independence: I watched the debate and I was amused at Obama's explination of gas prices...it made me laugh. "The reason gas prices were so low was because the economy was so bad" so by Barry's rational gas is higher now because the economy is getting better and further on that same point if the economy does even better then I could pay $90 to fill up my car....hmmm he seems to understand how things work quite well. It's not about getting new refineries or increasing production, it's about how great the economy is and right now the economy must be kicking some major ass because it costs a lot to fill up a car.....not that you would know or care about that.

Education: Teachers Unions are killing education, the DOE is killing education. We need private schools and ACCOUNTABILITY and I know what I'm talking about because people in my family were teachers.

Trade & China: So we're just supoposed to let them suppress the value of the yuan and put tarrifs on the goods we export and we're supposed to be cool with that?

Cutting the deficet: Obama has put us in a $6 Trillion hole....yeah so that's "less" than who exactly or are you going to attempt to blame that all on Bush....AGAIN? After 4 years you would figure Obama would OWN his failures.


"And that's because there's very little either guy can do"...time to read your own words and just butt out of the debate then instead of attempting (rather hilariously) to sway voters into thinking Obama has done some fucking bang up job. I live in the United States and I can tell you Obama isn't a good leader, he's done 0 for this country.

[TitoFan]

Oooh a graph....color me surprised

Kirkland just face the facts Barack Obama is a terrible President, he broke his promises, he missed out on his unemployment numbers by 9,000,000 jobs, 3,000,000 MORE women are living below the poverty line thanks to his policies, and he has the audacity to try and spin this whole "Binders of women" deal into his favor.

Energy Independence: I watched the debate and I was amused at Obama's explination of gas prices...it made me laugh. "The reason gas prices were so low was because the economy was so bad" so by Barry's rational gas is higher now because the economy is getting better and further on that same point if the economy does even better then I could pay $90 to fill up my car....hmmm he seems to understand how things work quite well. It's not about getting new refineries or increasing production, it's about how great the economy is and right now the economy must be kicking some major ass because it costs a lot to fill up a car.....not that you would know or care about that.

Education: Teachers Unions are killing education, the DOE is killing education. We need private schools and ACCOUNTABILITY and I know what I'm talking about because people in my family were teachers.

Trade & China: So we're just supoposed to let them suppress the value of the yuan and put tarrifs on the goods we export and we're supposed to be cool with that?

Cutting the deficet: Obama has put us in a $6 Trillion hole....yeah so that's "less" than who exactly or are you going to attempt to blame that all on Bush....AGAIN? After 4 years you would figure Obama would OWN his failures.


"And that's because there's very little either guy can do"...time to read your own words and just butt out of the debate then instead of attempting (rather hilariously) to sway voters into thinking Obama has done some fucking bang up job. I live in the United States and I can tell you Obama isn't a good leader, he's done 0 for this country.

You're angry with Obama, and angry people rarely discuss issues in a rational manner. Example: I'm pro-Obama and anti-Romney... but I was lucid enough to concede that Romney did a better job in the first debate. Whereas you angrily denied that Obama had done a much better job in the second debate.

Another example: Your defense of Romney in the energy issue is downright ridiculous. Surely you're intelligent enough to know that the answer to America's (and most of the civilized world) energy problems isn't drilling the shit out whatever oil reserves happen to be left, without paying attention to renewable energy sources. "Energy independence", the buzzword everybody loves to throw around, doesn't mean continuing to irresponsibly exhaust the oil reserves within the control of the U.S. government and to hell with the next 10-20 years. If you disagree with that, then I consider you to be short-sighted, and never mind the argument... it's useless. Oil is a finite resource. Soon all we'll be doing is finding more ways to extract the very difficult-to-reach oil reserves, which by the way take millions of years to replenish. Not only that. You bash Obama for "denying drilling permits".... but conveniently choose to ignore the consequences of reckless drilling, such as the mega (and very costly) disaster BP created in the Gulf. Oh.... but you don't live there, do you.

Romney is just a "Bush", but with a private enterprise background. He'll champion the "balls to the wall", reckless drilling for oil... any environmental or energy supply consequences be damned. "Screw the big, long term picture. We need to squeeze the shit out whatever oil we can get our hands on. And if we have to go to war for overseas oil, we'll do that too. Green energy? Fuck that. It doesn't fill my own personal interest pocket."

But I don't want to bore you with this environmental "crap". Suffice it to say that you would defend Romney regardless of what he says, regardless of whether it makes sense or not. You hate Obama... and you want him out. No amount of common sense to the contrary will sway your laser-focused mind.

[El Kabong]

You're angry with Obama, and angry people rarely discuss issues in a rational manner. Example: I'm pro-Obama and anti-Romney... but I was lucid enough to concede that Romney did a better job in the first debate. Whereas you angrily denied that Obama had done a much better job in the second debate.

Another example: Your defense of Romney in the energy issue is downright ridiculous. Surely you're intelligent enough to know that the answer to America's (and most of the civilized world) energy problems isn't drilling the shit out whatever oil reserves happen to be left, without paying attention to renewable energy sources. "Energy independence", the buzzword everybody loves to throw around, doesn't mean continuing to irresponsibly exhaust the oil reserves within the control of the U.S. government and to hell with the next 10-20 years. If you disagree with that, then I consider you to be short-sighted, and never mind the argument... it's useless. Oil is a finite resource. Soon all we'll be doing is finding more ways to extract the very difficult-to-reach oil reserves, which by the way take millions of years to replenish. Not only that. You bash Obama for "denying drilling permits".... but conveniently choose to ignore the consequences of reckless drilling, such as the mega (and very costly) disaster BP created in the Gulf. Oh.... but you don't live there, do you.

Romney is just a "Bush", but with a private enterprise background. He'll champion the "balls to the wall", reckless drilling for oil... any environmental or energy supply consequences be damned. "Screw the big, long term picture. We need to squeeze the shit out whatever oil we can get our hands on. And if we have to go to war for overseas oil, we'll do that too. Green energy? Fuck that. It doesn't fill my own personal interest pocket."

But I don't want to bore you with this environmental "crap". Suffice it to say that you would defend Romney regardless of what he says, regardless of whether it makes sense or not. You hate Obama... and you want him out. No amount of common sense to the contrary will sway your laser-focused mind.

1. Obama did better in the second debate than he did in the first BUT Romney still won it going away and why do I say that? I say that because Romney's camp isn't going after petty bullcrap attempting to rile the base on nothing of substance like the Obama campaign is. "Binders of Women" that's all you've got? Mitt Romney said "Binders of women" because the Massachusettes State Government didn't have an adequate amount of women working in the highest level so Romney asked for smart, qualified women to interview for positions in his cabinet and he got them. Obama attacking petty stuff like that just shows he's got 0 ideas, 0 plans for the future, and that America is better off without him. Romney has attacks of SUBSTANCE: Libya, the economy, the President's own failed/broken promises but not only that Romney provides us with solutions! He tells America what he will do to help get us headed in the right direction.

2. People have always said "We'll run out of oil by _____", they use it as some sort of boogey man to try and force feed solar & wind to the masses. We're not going to run out of oil. Also as for BP...why did they have to drill waaaay far out in the ocean in the first place? Ever thought of that? And if offshore drilling is sooooo bad then why did Obama finance offshore drilling in Brazil? Why help them to reap the benefits of their land when we don't use our own? America has to stop being such an oil prude...we demand other nations drill and refine, why don't we expect the same from our own nation "Green Energy" HA....these "Green Energy" companies should only be called green due to the massive amounts of cash Obama handed them $90 BILLION...let that sink in for a second.

3. Mitt Romney isn't George W. Bush, that comparison shows your irrational hatred of Mitt Romney. Plus your ideas that W "didn't give a damn about the environment" is unfounded. Global climate change is a hoax (scientists have admitted as much) and all the Kyoto Protocol was going to do is hamper the American economy to the point where we get taken down a peg in terms of our economic dominance.




Barack Obama isn't fit to lead this country, he never was. He has no idea what he's doing and it's too risky to give him 4 more years.

[Kirkland Laing]

Oooh a graph....color me surprised

Kirkland just face the facts Barack Obama is a terrible President, he broke his promises, he missed out on his unemployment numbers by 9,000,000 jobs, 3,000,000 MORE women are living below the poverty line thanks to his policies, and he has the audacity to try and spin this whole "Binders of women" deal into his favor.

Energy Independence: I watched the debate and I was amused at Obama's explination of gas prices...it made me laugh. "The reason gas prices were so low was because the economy was so bad" so by Barry's rational gas is higher now because the economy is getting better and further on that same point if the economy does even better then I could pay $90 to fill up my car....hmmm he seems to understand how things work quite well. It's not about getting new refineries or increasing production, it's about how great the economy is and right now the economy must be kicking some major ass because it costs a lot to fill up a car.....not that you would know or care about that.

Education: Teachers Unions are killing education, the DOE is killing education. We need private schools and ACCOUNTABILITY and I know what I'm talking about because people in my family were teachers.

Trade & China: So we're just supoposed to let them suppress the value of the yuan and put tarrifs on the goods we export and we're supposed to be cool with that?

Cutting the deficet: Obama has put us in a $6 Trillion hole....yeah so that's "less" than who exactly or are you going to attempt to blame that all on Bush....AGAIN? After 4 years you would figure Obama would OWN his failures.


"And that's because there's very little either guy can do"...time to read your own words and just butt out of the debate then instead of attempting (rather hilariously) to sway voters into thinking Obama has done some fucking bang up job. I live in the United States and I can tell you Obama isn't a good leader, he's done 0 for this country.

Lyle, exactly how many politicians can you name who kept the promises they made before they got elected?

In 2008 when Obama made various claims the economy was estimated to contract by 5% due to the meltdown. It actually contracted by double that over the next year. The economy was losing 800 000 jobs a month when he took office, it was in freefall and there was no way of knowing exactly how bad it was going to get. Also the banks had only disclosed about half of their bad loans/debt and this meant hundred of thousands more foreclosures of mortgages, severely depressing the economy. Neither of these two crucial things had been known when Obama made whatever promises he did back in 2008, so it's fair to take them into account now.

And Obama is dead right about why gas prices were low when he took office and why they're higher now. I know facts make you break out in hives but here's a graph to explain it to you :



When Obama took office in January 2009 the gasoline price was right at the bottom of that big dip. Now the economy improved so the price has recovered to almost the same level it was at before. And like I already pointed o0ut to you, building new refineries or increasing production won't have any effect on the gas price.

You can have as many private schools as you want but you need people to be able to afford them. For 95% of the country they're unaffordable. So you need to improve the system you have, and that means spending more money on it. Unions don't kill education. All the top countries in the world for education have much stronger teachers' unions than America does.

China will continue to do what they're doing and neither Obama noe Romney will do anything serious about it. Every candidate threatens China when he wants to get elected but then does fuck all in office. Again, US corporations put these guys in the White House so they're not going to do anything about China.

Don't have time to explain the deficit to you right now. I've explained it before but the facts have fallen out of the back of your brain. Maybe next week.

I'm not trying to sway anybody, I'm just showing you one guy will do a bad job of running the country and the other guy will do an even worse job.

[El Kabong]

"One guy will do a bad job (Obama) and one guy will do even worse (Romney)" and when you post that you are cheering for Obama to win and I can tell you Obama has no idea about what he's doing, he wasn't ready for the job (still isn't), and all of that just flies over your head because of your irrational dislike of Mitt Romney.


Also your graph can show whatever it's just a correlation which doesn't show cause and effect so I could show a graph like this...

and point out how fucking ridiculous correlations can be Mr. Graph Man

[El Kabong]

Some news today...Fromer Chrysler Chairman and life long Democrat supports?? ROMNEY
Lee Iacocca endorses Romney for president - Conservative News

Bad news for the President
President Barack Obama on Benghazi attack: 'If 4 Americans get killed, it's not OPTIMAL' | Mail Online
It just proves the man isn't fit for office.


Oh and the new polls out...Romney 51% Obama 45%......looking great for you Kirkland, looks like a solid win for you and Obama.

[Xwetie]

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[Youngblood]

What I enjoy about this election, beyond appreciating the spectacle that it is, is that if Romney manages to win it's no big deal personally. We are pretty happy here in Canada. Things are good in the most educated, free health care country on the planet. I mean, even Romney was pining in the last debate how you all should be more like us with our only 15% business tax etc.

And if Obama wins (again), well, the amount of EPIC BUTTHURT will be legendary.

Kind of a no lose situation.

[VictorCharlie]

There won't be any noticeable difference no matter who wins. I think the butt hurt will be more epic in a Romney win than vice versa. It is always a big kick in junk when a party's incumbent loses and this guy gets such an epic pass from the media that the meltdown will be monumental. If it is going bad on election night I'll be watching MSNBC all night to watch Matthews, Maddow and Shultz cry like bitches.

[Kirkland Laing]

"One guy will do a bad job (Obama) and one guy will do even worse (Romney)" and when you post that you are cheering for Obama to win and I can tell you Obama has no idea about what he's doing, he wasn't ready for the job (still isn't), and all of that just flies over your head because of your irrational dislike of Mitt Romney.


Also your graph can show whatever it's just a correlation which doesn't show cause and effect so I could show a graph like this...

and point out how fucking ridiculous correlations can be Mr. Graph Man

The price of gasoline fell off a cliff due to the world economy falling off a cliff. Because the economy crashed -- millions of layoffs and redundancies/bankrupcies worldwide -- the global demand for oil crashed as well. There was suddenly massive excess supply, with tankers full of crude parked up all over the world unable to offload because the supply chain was fully stocked. There isn't anything remotely controversial about what I just wrote, it's just what actually happened.

And anyway, why is it surprising to you that you were wrong about gasoline and Obama was right? You're consistently wrong about everything, you demonstrate every time you post that you don't have a fucking clue about any of this stuff so why is it a shock to you that you were wrong again?