Mike Tyson prime vs David tua prime

**THE PHILOSOPHER** · 10-19-2012 06:59 PM

Read this:

Boxing - I sparred with Evander Holyfield, George Foreman, Lennox Lewis, David Tua and others

A nice perspective from someone who sparred them all!

P.s what class are we dismissing?

Have a bit more (i think iv made my point by now):

I usually don't care what trainers say but since Emanuel Stewart hits the nail on its head I want to quote him:

"What makes him really special also is he has so much power in the late rounds. A lot of guys, great punchers like ·Mike Tyson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), they were great in the early rounds but very seldom in the late rounds. Wladimir has knocked out guys like he did with ·Chris Byrd ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), and ·RayAustin ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), and ·Eliseo Castillo ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) – he knocked those guys out early because he threw a punch early, an early power punch. And then he’s had the power to go out after being down three times with ·Samuel Peter ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and he had him out on his feet in the twelfth round of a very grueling fight with one single punch, a left hook. Then he knocked out ·Tony Thompson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]). With Tony Thompson he ran across the ring and threw one straight right hand in the eleventh round and just walked away, and Thompson went down totally finished. Now he knocks out this guy in the 12th round with ten or twelve seconds left with one punch. To have a fighter that has that kind of devastating one punch clean knockout power is so much stress on the opponent because you’re never safe."

(Emmanuel Stewart, HOF trainer of Wladimir Klitschko)

**ross** · 10-19-2012 07:21 PM

Now I know where all your crap comes from!

I just read that forum front he link and that is someone taking the piss out of a bunch of naive morons! That isnt for real!

Gullible fucker

**THE PHILOSOPHER** · 10-20-2012 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by ross

Now I know where all your crap comes from!

I just read that forum front he link and that is someone taking the piss out of a bunch of naive morons! That isnt for real!

Gullible fucker

LOL.

And u are someone's opinion we should value more! Truth hurts. My car needs washing ross!

**THE PHILOSOPHER** · 10-20-2012 06:23 PM

LOL.

WK's World title stats: Name and KO'ratio in world title fights:

·George Foreman 42.8% (3 of 7)
·Mike Tyson 62.5% (10 of 16)
·Wladimir Klitschko 77.7% (14 0f 1

Another way of comparing is common opponents: Schulz, Martin and Young:

Opponent Wladimir Klitschko's result George Foreman's result:

·Axel Schulz KO8 MD12
·Everett Martin KO8 UD10
·Mark Young KO2 (RTD2) TKO7

This again shows superiority on wlads part! More?

How about the fact that George Foreman has scored only 3 KOs in world championship fights 200×2, whereas Wladimir Klitschko has scored approximately 5 x as many!

More? So far 13 people survived fights with Foreman. But only 3 survived against Wlad! Shall we go on?

Let's also take a look at people who have sparred with them (Of course we must value the opinion of some forum trolls over someone who actually experienced them! 'But wait that guy must be lyeing.....') LOL:

I-sparred-with-Evander-Holyfield-George-Foreman-Lennox-Lewis-David-Tua-and-others-td4090601

Lets take the opinion of someone in the know:

"What makes him really special also is he has so much power in the late rounds. A lot of guys, great punchers like ·Mike Tyson, they were great in the early rounds but very seldom in the late rounds. Wladimir has knocked out guys like he did with ·Chris Byrd, and RayAustin, and ·Eliseo Castillo – he knocked those guys out early because he threw a punch early, an early power punch. And then he’s had the power to go out after being down three times with ·Samuel Peter and he had him out on his feet in the twelfth round of a very grueling fight with one single punch, a left hook. Then he knocked out Tony thompson. With Tony Thompson he ran across the ring and threw one straight right hand in the eleventh round and just walked away, and Thompson went down totally finished. Now he knocks out this guy in the 12th round with ten or twelve seconds left with one punch. To have a fighter that has that kind of devastating one punch clean knockout power is so much stress on the opponent because you’re never safe."

(Emmanuel Stewart, HOF trainer of Wladimir Klitschko) Also note Freddie roach said WK hit harder than Tyson!

More? Let's see who foreman says hit him the hardest:

Boxing - George Foreman reveals who hit him the hardest..

Oh look cooney! As i said cooney had an argument too!

Let's look at someone who fought LL and WK (Phil jackson) He says wlad hit harder:

Ex-Foe says Wladimir Klitschko Can Still Be Champ

More powerful than Lennox Lewis would you say?

Phil Jackson: "Yeah, most definitely. Yeah."

Shall we go on? U see im not basing it all on size, i said IMO being 25lbs of solid muscle larger factors in! when talking about NOTED punchers, of course foreman has incredible power and he is an ATG puncher but IMO WK hits harder! Stop crying and produce a counter to this argument! Now point me to where i said foreman doesn't hit as hard because WK is bigger? I said that when comparing those 2 then wlads size must factor in as part of the equation IMO!

**palmerq** · 10-21-2012 02:52 AM

not sure what the current topic of tihs thread is but in response to the last post I dont wladmir hits especially hard, he has good power for sure but i think lennox had more power... wlad can land a great right hand like he did v tony thompson(or chagaev in the early rounds) but then thompson/chagaev will get up and continue, wladimir does not seem to have one punch knockout power in my opinion his knockouts seem to come from an accumulation of punches... lennox seemed to able to blow people away with just one shot(a well placed shot obviously) like his rematch v rahman... so i would say wladimirs power is a bit overrated