....you want to compare how a 20 something Wladimir Klitschko and a 40+ George Foreman did vs similar opponents and you think that's a reasonable and rational argument?

Your samples are cute...I used their entire careers because I'm not attempting to angle things in my favor because I know I'm correct, I don't have to skew numbers to fit my view.

Chris Byrd said what he said about David Tua on a Friday Night Fight's episode when Brian Kenny was still hosting and David Tua was also in the interview as well...take it or leave it at my word that's what Chris Byrd said he said "David Tua hit the hardest" and Kenny asked about Ike Ibeabuchi and Byrd said "Tua".

Yes we're talking about NOTED power punchers but when I mention guys like Rocky or Shavers, or Foreman you ALWAYS mention weight and I'm telling you that those guys could bang and it didn't matter if they weighed 170 or 250 they'd knock you out because they knew how to punch hard. You know the old saying that "punchers are born not made"....well those guys were born punchers and their stats back it up.