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Quote Originally Posted by DavilaJones View Post
I understand that but let me ask you this, would you agree with me that Mayweather fights an effective style but it does not mean that fights are congruent to a safety first style of fight? Essentially, isn't he a horrible/okay/good/great/genius (whichever you like) boxer if over the course of the fight he systematically breaks down his opponent and that his victory is based purely on skill rather than just brutishly forcing his way forward?

Is that not the sweet science?

Now mind you I'm not asking you if he's an exciting fighter for you to watch, I'm merely asking if what he's doing is considered high art in boxing?


I'll say this too, I always liked Vitali over Wlad because I think he has a better subliminal understanding of distance and angles.
I agree. I prefer vitali to vlad as well for the same reason.

Floyd is a different species.
Even the people that hate floyd respect his skills and flawless accurate boxing style.
When you watch floyd fight you are watching a piece of art that wont be with us for long that every boxer aspires too regarding reflexes and superb defense.

Adrian broner does so well because he copies floyd style and has the skills to make his own version of it.

What fighter today wakes up in the morning and thinks i really wish i fought like vlad?

You cant knock vlads achievements but you can knock his style and the fact with having a natural born advantage over everyone else, best trainer for that divison in manny, and a big brother to rely on who is also a world champion and the better of the two.

No one will ever view vlad as a pound for pound champ compared to other pound for pound champions past/present in varied weight classes.
People already have him ranked highly in their P4P ratings. I usually dismiss the idea of heavyweights being considered for P4P status as it was originally meant to show "Who's the next best fighter compared to the heavyweight champion" but to each their own.

Wlad's style, given his weaknesses is very good. Sure he has natural height & reach advantages but hell so does Julius Long and Nicolay Valuev, but Wladimir uses his skills to his advantage to such a degree his opponents don't even have a chance.