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    Default Re: Fidel Castro had a stroke and is near vegetative state

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    The US position on Cuba is awful. Why would you soften your stance on a country that tried to invade, then tried to kill you many times.

    Fuck America!
    miles, don't be such a Negative Nancy

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    Default Re: Fidel Castro had a stroke and is near vegetative state

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    The US position on Cuba is awful. Why would you soften your stance on a country that tried to invade, then tried to kill you many times.

    Fuck America!
    miles, don't be such a Negative Nancy
    Don't be a knob, Castro suffers but he has achieved a lot. Brain tumour USA is fucked, but in Cuba she will be treated.

    It isn't about you or them. There are good things to take from Cuba. Things that help society.

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    Default Re: Fidel Castro had a stroke and is near vegetative state

    Hmm... @El Kabong, apparently you only answer questions with a graph attached.
    Here's a neat one for you. Maybe now you'll answer my twice-asked question.




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    Hmm... @El Kabong , apparently you only answer questions with a graph attached.
    Here's a neat one for you. Maybe now you'll answer my twice-asked question.




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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Hmm... @El Kabong , apparently you only answer questions with a graph attached.
    Here's a neat one for you. Maybe now you'll answer my twice-asked question.




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    You didn't make that yourself did you?


    You have no idea how hard I worked to get that graph small enough (memory-wise) to allow attachment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Hmm... @El Kabong , apparently you only answer questions with a graph attached.
    Here's a neat one for you. Maybe now you'll answer my twice-asked question.




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    You didn't make that yourself did you?


    You have no idea how hard I worked to get that graph small enough (memory-wise) to allow attachment.

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    Default Re: Fidel Castro had a stroke and is near vegetative state

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Hmm... @El Kabong, apparently you only answer questions with a graph attached.
    Here's a neat one for you. Maybe now you'll answer my twice-asked question.




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    Am I missing something? What happened in 1990?
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    Default Re: Fidel Castro had a stroke and is near vegetative state

    We tried to get rid of him...missed our chance I guess

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    Default Re: Fidel Castro had a stroke and is near vegetative state

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Hmm... @El Kabong , apparently you only answer questions with a graph attached.
    Here's a neat one for you. Maybe now you'll answer my twice-asked question.




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    Am I missing something? What happened in 1990?


    Well I'm taking into consideration the fall of the Soviet Union as a factor. One could argue that the embargo was needed on Cuba while there still was a chance, however slim, that Castro would again cooperate with the USSR on something that could be a threat to the U.S. I'm thinking that threat went away with the demise of the USSR. My point is that the usefulness of the U.S. embargo on Cuba has long outlived its purpose... and has only brought unneeded suffering on the people of Cuba.

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    Ending the embargo is long overdue and I'm sure it has effected the Cuban people but I think the amount of suffering from it is being vastly overstated particularly when taking into consideration the regime they live under. If it was even a remotely free country and still impoverished then I could see some validity in the argument but as is I think the finger of blame is much more appropriately pointed at their leadership over the last several decades. My interaction with Cubans over the years has confirmed this.
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    Default Re: Fidel Castro had a stroke and is near vegetative state

    Quote Originally Posted by VictorCharlie View Post
    Ending the embargo is long overdue and I'm sure it has effected the Cuban people but I think the amount of suffering from it is being vastly overstated particularly when taking into consideration the regime they live under. If it was even a remotely free country and still impoverished then I could see some validity in the argument but as is I think the finger of blame is much more appropriately pointed at their leadership over the last several decades. My interaction with Cubans over the years has confirmed this.


    Which is exactly why I'm saying. Would the Cuban people not have been much better off if... rather than continue a useless embargo, the U.S. government would've removed Castro from power a long time ago? There were no reprisals to fear from the Soviet Union. Not too many world leaders would've shed a tear for the ouster of Castro. The leadership in Cuba would've been different... people would be freer... and there would be no need for an embargo. Any argument against the ability of the U.S. to remove a leader from a country such as Cuba goes out the window when you mention the example of Manuel Noriega from Panama and his removal from power in 1989.

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