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    Default Re: Romney vs. Obama Debate - Part III - the final insult Monday night.

    Like I already said, the whole thing is just being stirred up by the Romney people just to get people like you excited enough to go out and vote. The vast majority of the population aren't interested at all because it's a tragic event that's being politicised to win votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Like I already said, the whole thing is just being stirred up by the Romney people just to get people like you excited enough to go out and vote. The vast majority of the population aren't interested at all because it's a tragic event that's being politicised to win votes.
    I'll let VC answer for how that makes those in harm's way feel about the current Administration...I'm going to guess they aren't all that thrilled about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Like I already said, the whole thing is just being stirred up by the Romney people just to get people like you excited enough to go out and vote. The vast majority of the population aren't interested at all because it's a tragic event that's being politicised to win votes.
    I'll let VC answer for how that makes those in harm's way feel about the current Administration...I'm going to guess they aren't all that thrilled about it.
    Look, this is one small incident that's currently being politicised because it happened so close to an election. If having an embassy or a consulate attacked makes you weak on national security then how do you explain the huge spike in embassy/consulate attacks/US diplomatic fatalities during the Reagan/Bush the Lesser presidencies? I could post a graph here but I'm sure you'll look the facts up for yourself.

    Also, too. Would there have been more protection at the Benghazi consulate if the GOP house committee hadn't slashed the funding they give the state department for diplomatic protection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Look, this is one small incident that's currently being politicised because it happened so close to an election. If having an embassy or a consulate attacked makes you weak on national security then how do you explain the huge spike in embassy/consulate attacks/US diplomatic fatalities during the Reagan/Bush the Lesser presidencies? I could post a graph here but I'm sure you'll look the facts up for yourself.

    Also, too. Would there have been more protection at the Benghazi consulate if the GOP house committee hadn't slashed the funding they give the state department for diplomatic protection?
    #1 The attack in Benghazi is the first time since 1979 where an Ambassador from the United States was assasinated.
    #1 A) It could have been prevented
    #1 B) It SHOULD have been prevented
    #1 C) The Obama Administration lied about what they knew, when they knew, and what they could have done to help. They are accountable and the people that are trying to sweep this under the rug and say "Oh forget about it, it happens all the time, they're just trying to politicise this because the election is close" were the same people saying "Bush lied people died" about the WMDs in Iraq.

    #2. Not all Embassies have to have top notch security personnel but I think we could have done better than unarmed Libyan "bodyguards". I don't expect a fucking SWAT team in our Embassy in England or in France or Japan or even China for that matter.....but a country that has JUST gotten rid of a leader and is still very much split in 2....yeah I think we could have some additional security there. Also if they came under attack and there are American military bases all over the world (which there are and some within very close distance to Benghazi) one would assume that we would have it in us to save our fellow countrymen. All that is being asked is "Who denied the help?" Barack Obama being Commander in Chief doesn't look too fucking great as a leader to allow that to happen now does he? Although to you that might be just fine, I'm certain you wouldn't change your view if you were one of the soldiers there waiting on help that's never coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Look, this is one small incident that's currently being politicised because it happened so close to an election. If having an embassy or a consulate attacked makes you weak on national security then how do you explain the huge spike in embassy/consulate attacks/US diplomatic fatalities during the Reagan/Bush the Lesser presidencies? I could post a graph here but I'm sure you'll look the facts up for yourself.

    Also, too. Would there have been more protection at the Benghazi consulate if the GOP house committee hadn't slashed the funding they give the state department for diplomatic protection?
    #1 The attack in Benghazi is the first time since 1979 where an Ambassador from the United States was assasinated.
    #1 A) It could have been prevented
    #1 B) It SHOULD have been prevented
    #1 C) The Obama Administration lied about what they knew, when they knew, and what they could have done to help. They are accountable and the people that are trying to sweep this under the rug and say "Oh forget about it, it happens all the time, they're just trying to politicise this because the election is close" were the same people saying "Bush lied people died" about the WMDs in Iraq.

    #2. Not all Embassies have to have top notch security personnel but I think we could have done better than unarmed Libyan "bodyguards". I don't expect a fucking SWAT team in our Embassy in England or in France or Japan or even China for that matter.....but a country that has JUST gotten rid of a leader and is still very much split in 2....yeah I think we could have some additional security there. Also if they came under attack and there are American military bases all over the world (which there are and some within very close distance to Benghazi) one would assume that we would have it in us to save our fellow countrymen. All that is being asked is "Who denied the help?" Barack Obama being Commander in Chief doesn't look too fucking great as a leader to allow that to happen now does he? Although to you that might be just fine, I'm certain you wouldn't change your view if you were one of the soldiers there waiting on help that's never coming.

    Again, this is all just you parroting whatever the latest nonsense is on conservative blogs or wherever. There was an attack on a consulte. People died. There was a confused response by the government. The event is being politicised as it's so close to an election. Will this ever get mentioned again the day after the election? If Romney wins I don't think we'll hear about it again. If Obama wins it's 50/50, but the GOP will only contimue pushing it out of bloody mindedness. It's basically an irrelevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Again, this is all just you parroting whatever the latest nonsense is on conservative blogs or wherever. There was an attack on a consulte. People died. There was a confused response by the government. The event is being politicised as it's so close to an election. Will this ever get mentioned again the day after the election? If Romney wins I don't think we'll hear about it again. If Obama wins it's 50/50, but the GOP will only contimue pushing it out of bloody mindedness. It's basically an irrelevance.
    Oh yeah, totally, you're totally right it's only the first time since 1979 when a US Ambassador has been assasinated OH and the best part was there was a chance to not have that be the outcome but yeah what you said is great....Obama has 0 accountability even if it was he who told our forces to "Stand down" as our American citizens and soldiers were left to die....but yeah it's playing politics not wondering about the accountability of the Commander in Chief.

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    Default Re: Romney vs. Obama Debate - Part III - the final insult Monday night.

    Obama and Romney are one in the same. A vote for one is a vote for the other. That's why I'm voting for Gary Johnson. I don't want to live in a police state.

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    Default Re: Romney vs. Obama Debate - Part III - the final insult Monday night.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Again, this is all just you parroting whatever the latest nonsense is on conservative blogs or wherever. There was an attack on a consulte. People died. There was a confused response by the government. The event is being politicised as it's so close to an election. Will this ever get mentioned again the day after the election? If Romney wins I don't think we'll hear about it again. If Obama wins it's 50/50, but the GOP will only contimue pushing it out of bloody mindedness. It's basically an irrelevance.
    Oh yeah, totally, you're totally right it's only the first time since 1979 when a US Ambassador has been assasinated OH and the best part was there was a chance to not have that be the outcome but yeah what you said is great....Obama has 0 accountability even if it was he who told our forces to "Stand down" as our American citizens and soldiers were left to die....but yeah it's playing politics not wondering about the accountability of the Commander in Chief.
    What evidence do you have that Obama told troops to stand down while the consulate was being attacked?

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