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I love how Miles posts generalized opinions as fact.
What is generalized about public education, health care, bus passes, fuel allowances, pensions etc? These are socialist policies and are used in countless nations.

Most economies are mixed to differing degrees and accept the validity of socialist policies. Unfortunately they are values that ideologues are trying to dismantle.
What isn't generalized about them? You don't post facts Miles you make broad sweeping statements and portray them as facts or definitive. You argue with straw man and non sequitar fallacies. Socialism is fine if you prefer it but you can't pretend that it isn't based on coercion and a threat of violence nor that it provides choice.
It is a fact that many European nations have all/some of the socialist programmes. It is a certainly a fact that the UK has them all.

Socialist policies are not necessarily based on coercion and a threat of violence. Was the NHS introduced to the UK against the will of the general public? No of course not.

I would argue that most would agree on basic necessities which should be provided by the government in order to construct a healthier society.