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    My question is how is Dos Santos going to be all "All see holes/weaknesses" and he's never boxed before? Holes/weaknesses for what?? Kicks? Grapples, holds, etc Plus he said he's sticking with MMA so why even bring it up? If you want to talk trash back it up! The deal is Dos Santos thinks that he's Billy Bad Ass because he beat up Cain Velasquez...you know who Cain is in the world of boxing NOBODY that's who!

    Junior Dos Santos, I had nothing against you before this dumbass interview but get real, in boxing Wlad would stomp a mudhole in your ass every day of the week & twice on Sundays.

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    It comes across like "I could box if I WANTED to.....I just like MMA better is all"....childish bullshit.

    I've had enough of the fucking MMA vs Boxing bullshit and honestly I'm ready to see some boxers beat the living fuck out of these MMA bastards. The MMA's "boxing ability" is on par with a Toughman competition, every last one of their champions even Silva would get torn up in a boxing ring....FACT

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    It comes across like "I could box if I WANTED to.....I just like MMA better is all"....childish bullshit.

    I've had enough of the fucking MMA vs Boxing bullshit and honestly I'm ready to see some boxers beat the living fuck out of these MMA bastards. The MMA's "boxing ability" is on par with a Toughman competition, every last one of their champions even Silva would get torn up in a boxing ring....FACT
    And every boxer would get 'torn up' in a MMA fight FACT. Fucking hell talk about going in circles its obvious MMA fighters wont beat elite boxers in a boxing match and boxers wont beat elite MMA fighters in a MMA fight.
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    Unlike JDS we're not hating on MMA. I don't care for the sport personally because there are aspects of it that I disagree with. It's no different than a fan of baseball not liking cricket and vice versa. Yes there are greatly talented MMA fighters @mattboxingfan, nobody is denying that....but to disrespect Wladimir Klitschko, especially at this point in time is pretty fucking low.

    There are MMA fighters that I like and respect: Machida, GSP, Anderson, Leonard Garcia, etc.

    JDS is fucking clueless about boxing

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    Default Re: Why I don't really respect MMA

    I like MMA too, but love boxing.

    Have trained boxing at an mma gym for 4 years now and many of them are talented, hard working guys.

    Junior Dos Santos has always seemed a humble, nice, quiet man so this seems pretty out of character for him.

    Would not surprise me a bit if Dana White is behind the scenes prodding Dos Santos to talk nonsense like this.

    Junior could very well take Wlad down and KO him on the ground in an mma bout, but in a boxing match he would look like a fish out of water.

    Truth be told he would find himself in the wide world of shit against top 20 heavyweights, I figure that John McDermott fat guy would knock him out in a round or two.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Dana white loves to cause issues.

    Boxing can be beautiful when you think of how some fighters have thought over the years and how they made it into a pure unique science.

    Got to respect MMA.

    The gracie family and etc were amazing and so unbeatable but there straight to the floor game got a bit boring.

    I didnt think MMA would have any of those special roy jones prime type characters until anderson silva/gsp came in to the scene.

    Anderson beats any light heavy weight boxer and below in the octogon and would be quite competitive in the squared circle.

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    Here's the thing: the top fighters (be it in MMA or boxing) reach the top because they have a certain amount of drive and CONFIDENCE. You need to have ego to reach the top. Look at guys like James Toney, Evander Holyfield: they also think they'd whip the Klitschkos. It's ego, and it's against their nature to concede that another man would whip their ass.

    JDS is as close to a "pure boxer" as MMA has right now. He doesn't box professionally, but he spars with a lot of pro and Olympic boxers. He knows boxing and he's no slouch. Would he beat either Klitschko or any other top 10 guy? Hell no. But I don't fault him for having that ego. The guy is young, he's the champ, he has people coming up to him every day telling him he'd kill anyone, so I can understand the ego thing. I don't think you should judge MMA on the opinion of one guy, because I can't remember anyone else (besides Nick Diaz) who even gave thought to fighting a world class pro boxer in a boxing match.

    I'll say this to everyone who's bashing MMA here: if someone posted a clip or quote of someone saying "boxing is nothing but two brutes bashing each other's brains in", there would be a huge uproar here of people calling them ignorant, stupid, prejudice, ect. People would go into great detail about how boxing is the "sweet science" and the fighters are world class, well conditioned athletes executing a fine craft that took YEARS to perfect. People would post stories of boxers who are well educated and who give generously to charity and help their communities. They'd point out how regulated boxing is, with well trained referees and experienced fight doctors overseeing the bouts.

    We'd all shit on that person because they're ignorant and we know better. So when you guys say similar things about MMA, you look equally as ignorant and idiotic.

    It's cool if MMA isn't your thing. Perfectly understandable. But don't disrespect it, because those guys put the same work/hours in as boxers, and they take the same risks as boxers.

    And know this: for every MMA guy who gets a big enough ego to where he thinks he can whip a boxing champ, there are about 10 boxers who have come out and said they could go out there and KTFO an MMA guy because they have better boxing.

    Sorry for the rant, but as a lover of both sports someone needs to stand up for MMA every once and awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Here's the thing: the top fighters (be it in MMA or boxing) reach the top because they have a certain amount of drive and CONFIDENCE. You need to have ego to reach the top. Look at guys like James Toney, Evander Holyfield: they also think they'd whip the Klitschkos. It's ego, and it's against their nature to concede that another man would whip their ass.

    JDS is as close to a "pure boxer" as MMA has right now. He doesn't box professionally, but he spars with a lot of pro and Olympic boxers. He knows boxing and he's no slouch. Would he beat either Klitschko or any other top 10 guy? Hell no. But I don't fault him for having that ego. The guy is young, he's the champ, he has people coming up to him every day telling him he'd kill anyone, so I can understand the ego thing. I don't think you should judge MMA on the opinion of one guy, because I can't remember anyone else (besides Nick Diaz) who even gave thought to fighting a world class pro boxer in a boxing match.

    I'll say this to everyone who's bashing MMA here: if someone posted a clip or quote of someone saying "boxing is nothing but two brutes bashing each other's brains in", there would be a huge uproar here of people calling them ignorant, stupid, prejudice, ect. People would go into great detail about how boxing is the "sweet science" and the fighters are world class, well conditioned athletes executing a fine craft that took YEARS to perfect. People would post stories of boxers who are well educated and who give generously to charity and help their communities. They'd point out how regulated boxing is, with well trained referees and experienced fight doctors overseeing the bouts.

    We'd all shit on that person because they're ignorant and we know better. So when you guys say similar things about MMA, you look equally as ignorant and idiotic.

    It's cool if MMA isn't your thing. Perfectly understandable. But don't disrespect it, because those guys put the same work/hours in as boxers, and they take the same risks as boxers.

    And know this: for every MMA guy who gets a big enough ego to where he thinks he can whip a boxing champ, there are about 10 boxers who have come out and said they could go out there and KTFO an MMA guy because they have better boxing.

    Sorry for the rant, but as a lover of both sports someone needs to stand up for MMA every once and awhile.
    MMA is a different sport altogether, everyone knows it, everyone understands it and hell a lot of boxing fans watch MMA. I don't particularly care for it, I watch every so often to appease my friends, but I know those guys that hold titles put the work in and they deserve respect....but that doesn't give Junior Dos Santos a free pass to take shots at a Champion like Wladimir who conducts himself with class and has nothing but respect for the MMA and those people that do it. Wlad just lost his trainer Manny Steward as well and so that also plays into my thinking JDS was in the wrong. I'd expect that kind of uncouth bullshit from Tito Ortiz, The Shamrocks, Nick & Nate Diaz, Brock Lesnar, or Jon Jones but these comments were out of left field for JDS and he should fucking know better.

    Boxers that have called out MMA fighters like James Toney and Ray Mercer have usually done so because their careers are over in boxing and they need money. Floyd criticized MMA but that's his deal, he's an asshole at times and it makes it hard to cheer for him. I think boxing fans in general have given UFC and MMA all the respect in the world, it's the Tapout wearing dickheads that think MMA is the greatest of all fighting ever and feel the need to talk down about boxing & boxers.

    JDS is a nobody in boxing he will ALWAYS be a nobody in boxing so he should keep the sport and it's stars names out of his mouth. Here's hoping that jackass gets KO'd by the next fighter he faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    MMA is a different sport altogether, everyone knows it, everyone understands it and hell a lot of boxing fans watch MMA. I don't particularly care for it, I watch every so often to appease my friends, but I know those guys that hold titles put the work in and they deserve respect....but that doesn't give Junior Dos Santos a free pass to take shots at a Champion like Wladimir who conducts himself with class and has nothing but respect for the MMA and those people that do it. Wlad just lost his trainer Manny Steward as well and so that also plays into my thinking JDS was in the wrong. I'd expect that kind of uncouth bullshit from Tito Ortiz, The Shamrocks, Nick & Nate Diaz, Brock Lesnar, or Jon Jones but these comments were out of left field for JDS and he should fucking know better.

    Boxers that have called out MMA fighters like James Toney and Ray Mercer have usually done so because their careers are over in boxing and they need money. Floyd criticized MMA but that's his deal, he's an asshole at times and it makes it hard to cheer for him. I think boxing fans in general have given UFC and MMA all the respect in the world, it's the Tapout wearing dickheads that think MMA is the greatest of all fighting ever and feel the need to talk down about boxing & boxers.

    JDS is a nobody in boxing he will ALWAYS be a nobody in boxing so he should keep the sport and it's stars names out of his mouth. Here's hoping that jackass gets KO'd by the next fighter he faces.
    I agree 100%. I'm actually a big JDS fan because he uses boxing in MMA better than anyone, but him thinking that he could beat a Klitschko in boxing is absolutely rediculous. He'd get handled by even fringe contenders like Arreola.

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    Gayest sports ever. I fucking hate MMA.

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