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In Finland's Footsteps
How high are their taxes?
The same as yours if you add on what you pay for healthcare, daycare and all the other stuff you have to pay for in America.
So higher then?
No, the same as you currently spend for the same services. Except your services are shit by comparison. Finland actually spends a lot less than America on healthcare and on education but their education system is one of the top two or three in the world while America is mid-table. Same thing for healthcare. There must be something good about those socialist systems, no?
NationMaster - Taxation stats: Finland vs United States

So higher then?

If you admit the services Americans get are "shit by comparison" why the hell would you want higher taxes to make the United States a welfare state like Finland when our services don't work well to begin with? Do you see the flaw in your arguments No I don't suspect you do....the welfare state can do no wrong in your eyes...I on the other hand like to take care of myself
If I'm saying that you should have higher taxes to be more like Finland because your current social services are rubbish how isn't that a coherent argument?