The Terrible Hypocrisy of England and America ın Geopolitics

[Kirkland Laing]

Britain and America supported Saddam when he gassed the Kurds and supported him right up until he upset another dictator client of ours. Over the next decade we the n proceeded to enforce crippling sanctions on Iraq which killed a million people, most of them children. We then invaded Iraq and killed a hundred thousand more people. And we wondered why the Arab world were disgusted with us and called us genocidal mass murderers after we'd done all this humanitarian intervention for them.

.....this looks suspiciously like one of those retarded Liberal "Blame America first" arguments.


I guess if the US & England had just gotten rid of Saddam earlier then we would be loved? No? Maybe if we kept Saddam longer we would be ok over there? No? Well maybe if we rebuilt their country we would be seen in a better light? No? Well maybe if we gave them top teir trade status? No?.....are you getting the "no matter what we do they won't like us" vibe yet Give them money & they hate us, don't give them money & they hate us, keep their leader & they hate us, get rid of their leader & they hate us.....any of that getting through

I think people in the Middle East are generally pissed off with America because America has propped up basically every dictator and tyrant in the region for decades. If you were living under Saudi rule for instance you may be so angry with America that you fly a plane into a building.

[El Kabong]

I think people in the Middle East are generally pissed off with America because America has propped up basically every dictator and tyrant in the region for decades. If you were living under Saudi rule for instance you may be so angry with America that you fly a plane into a building.

They're still pissed off about the fucking crusades there too Kirkland. It's not America's fault that people we are friends with abuse their power, I mean what's the solution to that problem? We throw out people who will at least not bomb us because they abuse their power and what are we left with? A population where 100% of the people hate America.....don't be simple Kirkland.


Also if the Middle Easterners REALLY wanted to be pissed off at a country they should be pissed off at England....you guys have been fucking about in that part of the world for waaaaay longer than the US has, infact you guys INVITED the United States to help put the Shah back in power in Iran....thanks England, that worked well.....twats

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Lyle stop blındly defendıng America -- we know you are American

[Kirkland Laing]

I think people in the Middle East are generally pissed off with America because America has propped up basically every dictator and tyrant in the region for decades. If you were living under Saudi rule for instance you may be so angry with America that you fly a plane into a building.

They're still pissed off about the fucking crusades there too Kirkland. It's not America's fault that people we are friends with abuse their power, I mean what's the solution to that problem? We throw out people who will at least not bomb us because they abuse their power and what are we left with? A population where 100% of the people hate America.....don't be simple Kirkland.


Also if the Middle Easterners REALLY wanted to be pissed off at a country they should be pissed off at England....you guys have been fucking about in that part of the world for waaaaay longer than the US has, infact you guys INVITED the United States to help put the Shah back in power in Iran....thanks England, that worked well.....twats

Why is it not America's fault that for decades they've propped up dictators, overthrown democratically elected governments and installed dictators etc etc in the Middle East? I thought Americans were supposed to believe in personal responsibility? Are you saying Americans can't be held responsible for their actions?

Middle East people are pissed off at England too. We get terrorist attacks over here as well. They're just not as pissed off with us as they are with you because in the living memory of the people who live there America is 99% responsible for hundreds of millions of them living under tyrannical regimes. And are you trying to introduce moral relativism into the argument here?

[El Kabong]

Why is it not America's fault that for decades they've propped up dictators, overthrown democratically elected governments and installed dictators etc etc in the Middle East? I thought Americans were supposed to believe in personal responsibility? Are you saying Americans can't be held responsible for their actions?

Middle East people are pissed off at England too. We get terrorist attacks over here as well. They're just not as pissed off with us as they are with you because in the living memory of the people who live there America is 99% responsible for hundreds of millions of them living under tyrannical regimes. And are you trying to introduce moral relativism into the argument here?

I'm pleased to see you're still unbiased as always. America can't make everyone happy, but it doesn't keep people from wanting that to be true. If we leave we're bad if we stay we're bad if we kiss their asses we're bad if we tell them to fuck off we're bad if we buy things from them we're bad if we DON'T buy things from them we're bad. The way you talk everyone in the Middle East is a slave to capitalism....which isn't the case at all. Were it not for oil (that EVERYONE buys not just the US) the Middle East would be no different than it was the days before T. E. Lawrence. I'm not going to call the people there "savages", but they aren't far off.

[Kirkland Laing]

Why is it not America's fault that for decades they've propped up dictators, overthrown democratically elected governments and installed dictators etc etc in the Middle East? I thought Americans were supposed to believe in personal responsibility? Are you saying Americans can't be held responsible for their actions?

Middle East people are pissed off at England too. We get terrorist attacks over here as well. They're just not as pissed off with us as they are with you because in the living memory of the people who live there America is 99% responsible for hundreds of millions of them living under tyrannical regimes. And are you trying to introduce moral relativism into the argument here?

I'm pleased to see you're still unbiased as always. America can't make everyone happy, but it doesn't keep people from wanting that to be true. If we leave we're bad if we stay we're bad if we kiss their asses we're bad if we tell them to fuck off we're bad if we buy things from them we're bad if we DON'T buy things from them we're bad. The way you talk everyone in the Middle East is a slave to capitalism....which isn't the case at all. Were it not for oil (that EVERYONE buys not just the US) the Middle East would be no different than it was the days before T. E. Lawrence. I'm not going to call the people there "savages", but they aren't far off.

Why is it not America's fault that for decades they've propped up dictators, overthrown democratically elected governments and installed dictators etc etc in the Middle East? I thought Americans were supposed to believe in personal responsibility? Are you saying Americans can't be held responsible for their actions?

[El Kabong]

Why is it not America's fault that for decades they've propped up dictators, overthrown democratically elected governments and installed dictators etc etc in the Middle East? I thought Americans were supposed to believe in personal responsibility? Are you saying Americans can't be held responsible for their actions?

Who's responsible for the other 1% Kirkland?

[Kirkland Laing]

Why is it not America's fault that for decades they've propped up dictators, overthrown democratically elected governments and installed dictators etc etc in the Middle East? I thought Americans were supposed to believe in personal responsibility? Are you saying Americans can't be held responsible for their actions?

Who's responsible for the other 1% Kirkland?

The west in general. Now stop trying to change the subject and answer the questions you keep dodging. If you want to argue about just how much America is to blame for how it's hated in the Middle East fine, but give specific answers to these questions at the same time. Here they are again, for the third time :

Why is it not America's fault that for decades they've propped up dictators, overthrown democratically elected governments and installed dictators etc etc in the Middle East? I thought Americans were supposed to believe in personal responsibility? Are you saying Americans can't be held responsible for their actions?