Calzaghe vs Jones Jr or Mayweather v Mosley?

[Fenster]

Mayweather over Mosley was the bigger victory by a country mile. Mosley's stock had skyrocketed at the time with his win over Margarito. He was a legitimate fight for Floyd, both ranking-wise and stylistically, as a lot of people felt Mosley's speed and power would give Floyd fits.

No one bought Roy as a serious contender at that point in his career. The fight was a joke. "Well they didn't fight when they were in their primes at 168, so lets have them fight now." Meaningless fight IMO.

Actually that's not true. Lots of "experts" and tons of fans picked Roy to win (don't shoot the messenger, but this can be backed up with evidence, just saying).

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Bhop: "Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power."

Lewis: "Jones has unbelievable speed and Calzaghe's never fought anyone like him. Jones likes it when his opponent comes to him and unfortunately for Calzaghe, that's exactly what he does; comes to his opponent and is right in their face. I pick Jones on points, but I think it'll be a very close fight."

Lacy: "It's going to be a hard fight to pick. If Jones doesn't stay on the ropes and give Calzaghe angles and lots of movement I'm going to go with Jones by decision. Roy can't stay on the ropes and give Joe the chance to throw his slapping punches. This is a great fight for Jones to win and set-up a big money fight again with Hopkins!"

Glen johnson: "Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roy's will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones' hard-hitting punches make the difference."

Vernon Forest: "Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision."

Malinaggi: "It's a hard fight to pick. I thought Calzaghe at first because, maybe he's too much for Roy right now. But based on what Joe just said about the three Brits beating the three Americans (Calzaghe-Jones, Hatton-Malignaggi, Haye-Barrett), I'm pulling Roy home.....Jones by decision."

Mickey Ward: "It's a pick 'em fight. I'd pick Calzaghe but you can't count Jones out. I can't pick a winner in this fight. They're both up in age. Jones is coming off a good fight (vs. Trinidad). I like Calzaghe to outbox Jones, who has been knocked out twice, but he didn't show any effects in his last fight."

Winky Wright:"I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghe's and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think it's Calzaghe late in the fight."
"Chad Dawson: It's a tough one to call. It's a very even match up.

They all said the same about lacy too LOL. Secondly, don't give calaghe shit for this fight it was jones calling calzaghe out! Calzaghe humiliated him for doing so.

[Master]

Hopkins did not fight Joe when he was middleweight champion because he was waiting for his contract with King to run out. It did not matter if they offered Hokins $6 million he would have increased it again. Hopkins was waiting for the golden goose in Oscar De La Hoya. So although B Hop earned less he did make more in the long run.

[El Kabong]

Mayweather over Mosley was the bigger victory by a country mile. Mosley's stock had skyrocketed at the time with his win over Margarito. He was a legitimate fight for Floyd, both ranking-wise and stylistically, as a lot of people felt Mosley's speed and power would give Floyd fits.

No one bought Roy as a serious contender at that point in his career. The fight was a joke. "Well they didn't fight when they were in their primes at 168, so lets have them fight now." Meaningless fight IMO.

Actually that's not true. Lots of "experts" and tons of fans picked Roy to win (don't shoot the messenger, but this can be backed up with evidence, just saying).

....same "experts" who picked Tyson over Lewis I suppose

[imp]

So many experts are hyping up the fight. Thats there job. Hype creates interest.
Who cares anyway we all know the truth.
Clinton woods fought the jones calzaghe should have fought but the story is already written.
Jones will call anyone out after them knockouts he recieved!
I thought natural progression in life is too move up, better yourself and take risks.

[imp]

A prime RJJ would toy with JC.
That invisible chin of RJJ would reappear and JC would be happy to just go 12 rounds knowing he hanged with a legend.

[Dia bando]

A prime RJJ would toy with JC.
That invisible chin of RJJ would reappear and JC would be happy to just go 12 rounds knowing he hanged with a legend.

RJJ in my opinion never had to prove he had a great chin, as his game was to hit and hop it he never
really engaged in toe to toe stuff. Jones relied on his reflexes, and speed, he was not a fighter I never
really took to, I can say I never really enjoyed watching him fight.
His style of fighting is not for me, as with Hopkins not for me it's down to your taste , I do like Mayweather and Mosley. As with all things in life, if we all liked the same things it would be boring.

[Bobthepen]

Can't believe this is really a discussion.

Mosley was coming off a sensational knockout victory over a man many regarded as the number one fighter in a talent rich division.

Jones Jr. was coming off a listless outpointing of a former welterweight standout who hadn't fought in three years at a catchweight of 170lbs.

[imp]

Can't believe this is really a discussion.

Mosley was coming off a sensational knockout victory over a man many regarded as the number one fighter in a talent rich division.

Jones Jr. was coming off a listless outpointing of a former welterweight standout who hadn't fought in three years at a catchweight of 170lbs.

exactly

[imp]

Calzaghe about TWO years before fighting old, rusty shot jones:-

"By this stage (2006) Roy Jones had been knocked out by Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver and, although he's still active, I would never want to fight him now. He's not the same fighter and I'd have nothing to gain by beating a shadow of what he once was. Jones was a great fighter in his day and a great name, but he's been knocked out twice, knocked out cold. What would I gain by knocking him out for a third time?"

Fast forward to November 2008 and a 39-year-old Jones was still dangerous enough to put Calzaghe on his backside in the first round of their clash at Madison Square Garden before Joe went on to win but not knock out a faded, desperate jones.

[imp]

Now your saying it was a money fight for both fighters! But in your earlier posts you mentioned it was a masterpiece!
Make your mind up buttercake.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Now your saying it was a money fight for both fighters! But in your earlier posts you mentioned it was a masterpiece!
Make your mind up buttercake.

Yes flower...A money fight between two ageing fighters but still a master piece on JC's part!

[imp]

Masterpiece is a great way to describe the way floyd took moselys best shot twice and completely dominated him after that.

Perfect chin.

All those steriods mosely took in the past stayed in his system and turned him into a KO machine with speed.

Floyd had moselys number in any era and everyone at the time was avoiding mosely after the destruction of margarito whether he had the wraps or not.

[Master]

Masterpiece is a great way to describe the way floyd took moselys best shot twice and completely dominated him after that.

Perfect chin.

All those steriods mosely took in the past stayed in his system and turned him into a KO machine with speed.

Floyd had moselys number in any era and everyone at the time was avoiding mosely after the destruction of margarito whether he had the wraps or not.

Although Floyd took Shane after exhausting every other easy option and was forced to fight him.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Floyd had moselys number in any era

Maybe....But i can't see him having dela hoya's no in any era!

P.s This is what u call a masterpiece:



Any prime or potential that Lacy would have had was beaten out of him in this fight. It happens in boxing. Other examples could be Trinidad vs. Reid, Chavez vs. Taylor, or Trinidad vs. Vargas. Going into the fight Lacy's people thought that Joe was a joke! How wrong they were! In fact thinking about it calzaghe has produced masterclass after masterclass...Lacy, Eubank, Kessler, Jones etc