Prime jones....

[brocktonblockbust]

Brock, you should not smoke it is bad for you.

paıd 20,000 korean won for that fuckıng thıng ın Fall 2011---never smnoked ıt
then last week re-humıdıfıed ıt wıth a damp paper--
fıgured ı better not waste 20 dollars and torched ıt up.
marked ıt ın hıstorıcai tıme wıth thıs vıdeo.
Prob wont smoke another for several months. throat was ırrıtated next 2 days.

[El Kabong]

Brockton, you look like a proper guido with that heater. I enjoy several different cigars, my favorites these days are the Perdomo Habanitos...just a long enough smoke for me. I only have one every other month or so.

[ono]

I think Calzaghe vs Jones would have been fun if Jones was in his prime. Be interesting to see how a prime Jones deal with Calzaghes output and work rate. Be interesting to see how a Prime Calzaghe deals with Roy's speed.

[Gandalf]

I'm quite serious when I say I believe Calzaghe is kryptonite to Jones Jr. His style is all wrong. Fast, high output, good chin, and won't stop. Jones Jr likes to observe and move and Calzaghe wouldn't let him breathe. Jones Jr said as much himself, Calzaghe would ALWAYS have been a difficult fight for him.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

It's no coincidence that jones avoided every slick southpaw of his generation...Liles, Nunn and JC! Why? Look what happened when he fought southpaw tarver! I also maintain that fighting the likes of Mclellan, Michalkewski and Eubank would have shaved years off of jones prime too! The Johnson fight is evidence of that! Jones would have been beaten sooner had he stepped up more consistantly!

Great fghter but not the superhuman ppl made him out to be...Too untested IMO. The praise in some way's is unjustified! Some of the replies so far in this thread just re-iterate what my O.P suggested.

[IamInuit]

It's no coincidence that jones avoided every slick southpaw of his generation...Liles, Nunn and JC! Why? Look what happened when he fought southpaw tarver! I also maintain that fighting the likes of Mclellan, Michalkewski and Eubank would have shaved years off of jones prime too! The Johnson fight is evidence of that! Jones would have been beaten sooner had he stepped up more consistantly!

Great fghter but not the superhuman ppl made him out to be...Too untested IMO. The praise in some way's is unjustified! Some of the replies so far in this thread just re-iterate what my O.P suggested.

Saying something does not make it so. Explain how he avoided those people and especially Joe? What year could he have fought Calzaghe at 168? Jones was long gone to 175 when Joe was just starting to come into his own at 168. Its simply a myth w/o a time machine.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Saying something does not make it so. Explain how he avoided those people and especially Joe? What year could he have fought Calzaghe at 168? Jones was long gone to 175 when Joe was just starting to come into his own at 168. Its simply a myth w/o a time machine.

Saying jones would beat everyone doesn't make it so!

Fighting at a different weight doesn't mean the fight was a no go! MW Hopkins backed out of a SMW clash with joe in 02! JC v Jones would have been fairly big Trans-atlantic clash any time after 97 and more so as the year's went on....Certainly bigger than Jones v Hopkins (Arguably his best Win) Considering BHOP was ranked around No.8 at the time and was getting battered by B level segunda mercado back then! All jones did in that fight was hit n run in a fairly close fight anyway...

And i don't need to explain how he avoided them i just have to point u to i.e 168lb Vinny pazienza or the likes of Glen kelly and point out the other fighters operating worldwide at the time!! Clear cherry picking really.

[El Kabong]

It's no coincidence that jones avoided every slick southpaw of his generation...Liles, Nunn and JC! Why? Look what happened when he fought southpaw tarver! I also maintain that fighting the likes of Mclellan, Michalkewski and Eubank would have shaved years off of jones prime too! The Johnson fight is evidence of that! Jones would have been beaten sooner had he stepped up more consistantly!

Great fghter but not the superhuman ppl made him out to be...Too untested IMO. The praise in some way's is unjustified! Some of the replies so far in this thread just re-iterate what my O.P suggested.

Says the Calzaghe fan

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Jones beat Hopkins and Toney who are both better fighters than anyone mentioned in the OP.

[brocktonblockbust]

jones would smoke patterson ın about 4 rounds. quıck left hook ınsıde. lıghts out.

[imp]

A prime tyson vs a prime ali.?
Im sure tyson would smoke a prime frazier and etc. I wouldnt count a prime tyson out over anyone as much i like ali he gotta dance his toes off for three rounds.

[El Kabong]

A prime tyson vs a prime ali.?
Im sure tyson would smoke a prime frazier and etc. I wouldnt count a prime tyson out over anyone as much i like ali he gotta dance his toes off for three rounds.

.....Ali fought Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson and George Foreman and had no trouble with any of them. So that's the style, attitude, quick hands, and punching power of Mike Tyson right there and Ali stopped them all.....easily

[imp]

A prime tyson vs a prime ali.?
Im sure tyson would smoke a prime frazier and etc. I wouldnt count a prime tyson out over anyone as much i like ali he gotta dance his toes off for three rounds.

.....Ali fought Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson and George Foreman and had no trouble with any of them. So that's the style, attitude, quick hands, and punching power of Mike Tyson right there and Ali stopped them all.....easily

Im not saying ali wouldnt beat a prime tyson i just think perhaps another comparison would be suitable when comparing RJJ owning JC.
Tyson is short compared to the heavyweights he faced but he demolished all through speed, power and ridiculous head movement. (Perhaps alittle fear from the opposition as well?)
Tyson stands alone as an awesome machine that would compete in any era.

[El Kabong]

A prime tyson vs a prime ali.?
Im sure tyson would smoke a prime frazier and etc. I wouldnt count a prime tyson out over anyone as much i like ali he gotta dance his toes off for three rounds.

.....Ali fought Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson and George Foreman and had no trouble with any of them. So that's the style, attitude, quick hands, and punching power of Mike Tyson right there and Ali stopped them all.....easily

Im not saying ali wouldnt beat a prime tyson i just think perhaps another comparison would be suitable when comparing RJJ owning JC.
Tyson is short compared to the heavyweights he faced but he demolished all through speed, power and ridiculous head movement. (Perhaps alittle fear from the opposition as well?)
Tyson stands alone as an awesome machine that would compete in any era.

The point I'm trying to make is I respect Joe Calzaghe, he was a great fighter but RJJ was light years ahead of him. That is why I used the Ali-Tyson reference because as great as Tyson was he would never beat a Prime Ali.

So I was attempting to prove my point and be respectful at the same time.

[imp]

The first 3-4 rounds would be very risky for ali. Thats why i was not totally convinced it would be a walk in the park for ali.