Calzaghe vs Jones Jr or Mayweather v Mosley?

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Can't believe this is really a discussion.

Mosley was coming off a sensational knockout victory over a man many regarded as the number one fighter in a talent rich division.

Jones Jr. was coming off a listless outpointing of a former welterweight standout who hadn't fought in three years at a catchweight of 170lbs.

exactly

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Calzaghe about TWO years before fighting old, rusty shot jones:-

"By this stage (2006) Roy Jones had been knocked out by Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver and, although he's still active, I would never want to fight him now. He's not the same fighter and I'd have nothing to gain by beating a shadow of what he once was. Jones was a great fighter in his day and a great name, but he's been knocked out twice, knocked out cold. What would I gain by knocking him out for a third time?"

Fast forward to November 2008 and a 39-year-old Jones was still dangerous enough to put Calzaghe on his backside in the first round of their clash at Madison Square Garden before Joe went on to win but not knock out a faded, desperate jones.

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Now your saying it was a money fight for both fighters! But in your earlier posts you mentioned it was a masterpiece!
Make your mind up buttercake.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Now your saying it was a money fight for both fighters! But in your earlier posts you mentioned it was a masterpiece!
Make your mind up buttercake.

Yes flower...A money fight between two ageing fighters but still a master piece on JC's part!

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Now your saying it was a money fight for both fighters! But in your earlier posts you mentioned it was a masterpiece!
Make your mind up buttercake.

Yes flower...A money fight between two ageing fighters but still a master piece on JC's part!

Ha ha ha..brilliant.
All flowers are lovely so i will take the compliment.
Your still wrong though. Lol

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Ha ha ha..brilliant.
All flowers are lovely so i will take the compliment.
Your still wrong though. Lol

No im not! Keep the flower though.

P.S May v Mosley was a shit fight i could watch JC v Jones over n over....

[Master]

Ha ha ha..brilliant.
All flowers are lovely so i will take the compliment.
Your still wrong though. Lol

No im not! Keep the flower though.

P.S May v Mosley was a shit fight i could watch JC v Jones over n over....

Disagree Floyd v Shane was exciting seeing Mayweather wobbled and then he stepped up a gear and was flawless. Joe beat up old Roy Jones which was not nice.

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Masterpiece is a great way to describe the way floyd took moselys best shot twice and completely dominated him after that.

Perfect chin.

All those steriods mosely took in the past stayed in his system and turned him into a KO machine with speed.

Floyd had moselys number in any era and everyone at the time was avoiding mosely after the destruction of margarito whether he had the wraps or not.

[Master]

Masterpiece is a great way to describe the way floyd took moselys best shot twice and completely dominated him after that.

Perfect chin.

All those steriods mosely took in the past stayed in his system and turned him into a KO machine with speed.

Floyd had moselys number in any era and everyone at the time was avoiding mosely after the destruction of margarito whether he had the wraps or not.

Although Floyd took Shane after exhausting every other easy option and was forced to fight him.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Floyd had moselys number in any era

Maybe....But i can't see him having dela hoya's no in any era!

P.s This is what u call a masterpiece:



Any prime or potential that Lacy would have had was beaten out of him in this fight. It happens in boxing. Other examples could be Trinidad vs. Reid, Chavez vs. Taylor, or Trinidad vs. Vargas. Going into the fight Lacy's people thought that Joe was a joke! How wrong they were! In fact thinking about it calzaghe has produced masterclass after masterclass...Lacy, Eubank, Kessler, Jones etc

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Floyd had moselys number in any era

Maybe....But i can't see him having dela hoya's no in any era!

P.s This is what u call a masterpiece:



Any prime or potential that Lacy would have had was beaten out of him in this fight. It happens in boxing. Other examples could be Trinidad vs. Reid, Chavez vs. Taylor, or Trinidad vs. Vargas. Going into the fight Lacy's people thought that Joe was a joke! How wrong they were! In fact thinking about it calzaghe has produced masterclass after masterclass...Lacy, Eubank, Kessler, Jones etc

Lets not bring de la hoya into this.
Floyd already beat the golden boy at his weight, his ring, his gloves.
At 147 at any era it would be another gatti part 2.
Dont underestimate floyd. No fighter adjusts like he does.
We still havent seen the best of floyd.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Floyd had moselys number in any era

Maybe....But i can't see him having dela hoya's no in any era!

P.s This is what u call a masterpiece:



Any prime or potential that Lacy would have had was beaten out of him in this fight. It happens in boxing. Other examples could be Trinidad vs. Reid, Chavez vs. Taylor, or Trinidad vs. Vargas. Going into the fight Lacy's people thought that Joe was a joke! How wrong they were! In fact thinking about it calzaghe has produced masterclass after masterclass...Lacy, Eubank, Kessler, Jones etc

Lets not bring de la hoya into this.
Floyd already beat the golden boy at his weight, his ring, his gloves.
At 147 at any era it would be another gatti part 2.
Dont underestimate floyd. No fighter adjusts like he does.
We still havent seen the best of floyd.

Delahoya SD Mayweather prime for prime.

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JC outboxed lacy and showed what a boxing clinic truly is..but close your eyes and put a prime RJJ in with JC..just be honest to yourself.

[mattboxingfan]

JC outboxed lacy and showed what a boxing clinic truly is..but close your eyes and put a prime RJJ in with JC..just be honest to yourself.

I see a pick em fight. Roy having to work harder than he ever has in any fight with Joe's work rate. Not an easy one by any account.

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Even if we were just to swap opponents for both fighters.
Pretend JC had RJJ opponents and RJJ vice versa up until the first tarver fight.
Im pretty sure roy would have a higher KO% with JC opponents and remain easily undefeated.
JC on the other hand (still a great boxer) would have a few losses under his belt. ie: toney, hopkins and would calzaghe risk moving up in weight..naaa.
JC could not even complete the list.

As much i like JC stamina, fast hands and boxing skills he just seems to have missed the boat in say a handful of fighters he could have fought to erase any doubt in anyones mind..but, 46-0 is still a very well respected achievement.
Just take more risks!