The Terrible Hypocrisy of England and America ın Geopolitics

[El Kabong]

Hey, don't complain to me, complain to Obama, HE thought it was a great idea....though I'm betting when Benghazi went down he wanted a do-over

[TitoFan]

He thought WHAT was a good idea?? We're talking U.S. foreign policy here. Can you put your anti-Obama rants aside for just a minute? Or are you implying that all the U.S.'s problems abroad are Obama's fault also?

[VictorCharlie]

What the US needs is a defined foreign policy. A set standard of protocols that lead to military action (define what types and when they are used), diplomatic engagement, introduction of UN resolutions etc.

[El Kabong]

He thought WHAT was a good idea?? We're talking U.S. foreign policy here. Can you put your anti-Obama rants aside for just a minute? Or are you implying that all the U.S.'s problems abroad are Obama's fault also?

Obama is Commander in Chief and he had the option of saying "OK we'll help you out France & Italy" or "Sorry fellas we're kind of tied up at the moment" and he chose to help out. And what do we have to show for it? Sure Moamar Qudaffi is dead & gone, but now we have a Libya that's split in two and half of it is of the "Let's burn down the West even if it means we will destroy the entire world" variety of government and by government I mean insane mob of Militant Muslims.

But hey we're supposed to re-elect Barry aren't we? I mean that cat has done such a bang up job from everything to unemployment (higher than when he was first elected) to foreign policy (we're being attacked by terrorists again) am I right? So who's ready for 4 more years

[TitoFan]

He thought WHAT was a good idea?? We're talking U.S. foreign policy here. Can you put your anti-Obama rants aside for just a minute? Or are you implying that all the U.S.'s problems abroad are Obama's fault also?

Obama is Commander in Chief and he had the option of saying "OK we'll help you out France & Italy" or "Sorry fellas we're kind of tied up at the moment" and he chose to help out. And what do we have to show for it? Sure Moamar Qudaffi is dead & gone, but now we have a Libya that's split in two and half of it is of the "Let's burn down the West even if it means we will destroy the entire world" variety of government and by government I mean insane mob of Militant Muslims.

But hey we're supposed to re-elect Barry aren't we? I mean that cat has done such a bang up job from everything to unemployment (higher than when he was first elected) to foreign policy (we're being attacked by terrorists again) am I right? So who's ready for 4 more years

Yes... that damn Obama. He's ruined all the good will that George W. had meticulously and skillfully built up with the rest of the world throughout his 8 years as President.

[El Kabong]

Yes... that damn Obama. He's ruined all the good will that George W. had meticulously and skillfully built up with the rest of the world throughout his 8 years as President.

People like to paint W as some sort of gun slinging cowboy and so I would like to ask "Would W have allowed our men to get massacred in Banghazi?"...I mean if W was the "Shoot first ask questions later" leader everyone seems to believe he was then you've got to figure he would have handled it in a manner that would have at the very least had our Armed Forces ATTEMPT to rescue those men.


And Fort Hood? That's still strictly a case of "workplace violence", nevermind what the guy said about Allah.

also Benghazi happened because of a VIDEO on YOUTUBE

[Beanz]

Everybody has gone mad.

Lyle You can't seriously blame Obama for Benghazi and then fail to mention the fact that he hunted down and killed the uber cunt Bin Laden, something W never quite managed. And TitoFan You can't moan about America being stretched and NATO being wimps whilst neglecting to mention the fact that in 90% of conflicts defending democracy the little old UK is first to help whilst the rest of the UN and NATO sit on their hands. Kirkland you seem to think that everything in the world is America and the UK's fault and that without them we would all be eating candyfloss. Miles you go on and on about the horror whilst flippantly comparing your haircut to an auschwitz Jew, well that is all very witty and all that but most Jews did not have the privilege of leaving the shower afterwards.

Miles ,Brockton, TitoFan and Kirkland do you think that the Chemical weapons that Saddam used to massacre the Kurds were just figments of the dead's imagination?

The truth is the world is not run by one great conspiracy and dressed up as a fight for freedom by Evil men, propping up others, just as it is not run by incorruptible eunuchs with only the happiness of mandkind filling their hearts. It is a mess but all hope is not lost and people muddle along because we are a young species, struggling to live together in a globalised world, full of disparate values. Whilst things in retrospect could always have been done with more care and efficiency, I can not in good conscience focus on drones killing terrorists in Pakistan without acknowledging the "horror" of Taliban edicts that are responsible for shooting young girls in the face for attending school or hanging people for the "crime" of being raped.

"Should we just look away and cover are ears?"

America can be dumb and Britain can be arrogant but that is not the same as Evil. Doing nothing is collaboration.

[Gandalf]

Greenbeanz, and how long was America a good friend of Sadaam's while content in the knowledge of what acts Saddam was commiting upon his own people? The hypocrisy is astounding. However, leaving aside that observation and heading towards the so called reason for war, was that Saddam posessed WMD and posed an iminent threat. Now that was a lie and we know that there simply was not such a threat. We commited a war of agression on an impoverished state, with next to no self defense, and yet interestingly, is in possession of significant supplies of oil. We went to war to war without the backing of the UN and America threatened weaker states to garner support and even encouraged Russia to murder in Chechnya to get them on side. France nobly said no to this nonsense and we all know how the US media reacted to that one. Let's put aside that the US is the largest vetoer in the UN and that US media only ever puts that in a minor paragraph on page 24.

It is no coincidence that America working for its cartels has spread misery, murder and backed dictatorship and torture around the globe for nigh on half a century. It is no conspiracy, it is huge and evidence overwhelming. The polls show that it isn't a conspiracy, but more popular opinion than anything else.