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    I think Calzaghe vs Jones would have been fun if Jones was in his prime. Be interesting to see how a prime Jones deal with Calzaghes output and work rate. Be interesting to see how a Prime Calzaghe deals with Roy's speed.

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    I'm quite serious when I say I believe Calzaghe is kryptonite to Jones Jr. His style is all wrong. Fast, high output, good chin, and won't stop. Jones Jr likes to observe and move and Calzaghe wouldn't let him breathe. Jones Jr said as much himself, Calzaghe would ALWAYS have been a difficult fight for him.

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    It's no coincidence that jones avoided every slick southpaw of his generation...Liles, Nunn and JC! Why? Look what happened when he fought southpaw tarver! I also maintain that fighting the likes of Mclellan, Michalkewski and Eubank would have shaved years off of jones prime too! The Johnson fight is evidence of that! Jones would have been beaten sooner had he stepped up more consistantly!

    Great fghter but not the superhuman ppl made him out to be...Too untested IMO. The praise in some way's is unjustified! Some of the replies so far in this thread just re-iterate what my O.P suggested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    It's no coincidence that jones avoided every slick southpaw of his generation...Liles, Nunn and JC! Why? Look what happened when he fought southpaw tarver! I also maintain that fighting the likes of Mclellan, Michalkewski and Eubank would have shaved years off of jones prime too! The Johnson fight is evidence of that! Jones would have been beaten sooner had he stepped up more consistantly!

    Great fghter but not the superhuman ppl made him out to be...Too untested IMO. The praise in some way's is unjustified! Some of the replies so far in this thread just re-iterate what my O.P suggested.
    Saying something does not make it so. Explain how he avoided those people and especially Joe? What year could he have fought Calzaghe at 168? Jones was long gone to 175 when Joe was just starting to come into his own at 168. Its simply a myth w/o a time machine.

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    Saying something does not make it so. Explain how he avoided those people and especially Joe? What year could he have fought Calzaghe at 168? Jones was long gone to 175 when Joe was just starting to come into his own at 168. Its simply a myth w/o a time machine.
    Saying jones would beat everyone doesn't make it so!

    Fighting at a different weight doesn't mean the fight was a no go! MW Hopkins backed out of a SMW clash with joe in 02! JC v Jones would have been fairly big Trans-atlantic clash any time after 97 and more so as the year's went on....Certainly bigger than Jones v Hopkins (Arguably his best Win) Considering BHOP was ranked around No.8 at the time and was getting battered by B level segunda mercado back then! All jones did in that fight was hit n run in a fairly close fight anyway...

    And i don't need to explain how he avoided them i just have to point u to i.e 168lb Vinny pazienza or the likes of Glen kelly and point out the other fighters operating worldwide at the time!! Clear cherry picking really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    Saying something does not make it so. Explain how he avoided those people and especially Joe? What year could he have fought Calzaghe at 168? Jones was long gone to 175 when Joe was just starting to come into his own at 168. Its simply a myth w/o a time machine.
    Fighting at a different weight doesn't mean the fight was a no go! MW Hopkins backed out of a SMW clash with joe in 02!

    Saying jones would beat everyone doesn't make it so!

    And i don't need to explain how he avoided them i just have to point u to i.e 168lb Vinny pazienza or the likes of Glen kelly and point out the other fighters operating worldwide at the time!! Clear cherry picking really.

    Now you are simply reaching.

    Joe won a version of the 168 title in 1997

    Jones beat McCallum and Griffin twice in 1997 at 175

    He was not about to shed weight and come back to 168 to fight a newbie that nobody had ever heard of.

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    Saying Calzaghe would have had a chance vs a Prime RJJ doesn't make it so either. OLD Roy knocked him down, what would a Prime Roy have done after that knockdown

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    Joe won a version of the 168 title in 1997
    So what u r saying is why should roy fight a SMW after he had only recently moved up to 175lbs to fight mike mcallum (Who's prime weight was Light middleweight LOL) and 5'7 inch Montell griffin! 7lbs was nothing considering most of roys opponents were 30lbs over there Prime weights and a JC V Jones fight would have been big! Silly talk....

    Jones beat McCallum and Griffin twice in 1997 at 175
    Mcallum was a 40 yr old who's prime weight was 154lbs....Midget Griffin was battered by Michalkewski! Why was jones fighting Griffin and not Michalkewski? LOL can ppl on this thread own themselves anymore!

    He was not about to shed weight and come back to 168 to fight a newbie that nobody had ever heard of.
    U have that on good authority do u? Yeah right......Why fight someone who had just clowned Eubank when he can fight a 168lb vinny pazienza who's prime weight was Lightweight! Quality...

    LOL @ some of u.....
    Last edited by THE PHILOSOPHER; 11-07-2012 at 08:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    It's no coincidence that jones avoided every slick southpaw of his generation...Liles, Nunn and JC! Why? Look what happened when he fought southpaw tarver! I also maintain that fighting the likes of Mclellan, Michalkewski and Eubank would have shaved years off of jones prime too! The Johnson fight is evidence of that! Jones would have been beaten sooner had he stepped up more consistantly!

    Great fghter but not the superhuman ppl made him out to be...Too untested IMO. The praise in some way's is unjustified! Some of the replies so far in this thread just re-iterate what my O.P suggested.
    Says the Calzaghe fan

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