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    Default Re: Froch vs bute or calzaghe vs lacy

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
    Easily Froch vs Bute...Lacy was totally overhyped and is not a good boxer...Bute is decent enough but chinny...in a rematch Froch would win again...
    Bute was totally over hyped

    arguably to the same level as lacy
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
    Easily Froch vs Bute...Lacy was totally overhyped and is not a good boxer...Bute is decent enough but chinny...in a rematch Froch would win again...
    Bute was totally over hyped

    arguably to the same level as lacy
    At the time of their fight, Calzaghe was the underdog, whereas Froch and Bute were even at the time of their clash. However, I think that was because Jeff Lacy looked the part, even if he wasn't the part. Many people thought Froch would win and he met their expectations with a dominant KO victory. Many people thought Calzaghe would be crushed and he vastly exceeded their expectations with his sadistic thrashing of Lacy. In terms of exceeding expectations with a career-defining victory, Calzaghe wins.

    However, in terms of beating a superior opponent, Froch wins hands down in my opinion. Lucian Bute is much better than Jeff Lacy. Dominant wins over Brian Magee, Sakio Bika, Glen Johnson, Kabrary Salem and Librado Andrade are better than anything on Jeff Lacy's record by far. Bute was also a champion for five years with over 10 defenses of his title, between 2007 and 2012. It's not really comparable. What's Jeff Lacy's best win? Robin Reid?
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    Default Re: Froch vs bute or calzaghe vs lacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
    Easily Froch vs Bute...Lacy was totally overhyped and is not a good boxer...Bute is decent enough but chinny...in a rematch Froch would win again...
    Bute was totally over hyped

    arguably to the same level as lacy
    At the time of their fight, Calzaghe was the underdog, whereas Froch and Bute were even at the time of their clash. However, I think that was because Jeff Lacy looked the part, even if he wasn't the part. Many people thought Froch would win and he met their expectations with a dominant KO victory. Many people thought Calzaghe would be crushed and he vastly exceeded their expectations with his sadistic thrashing of Lacy. In terms of exceeding expectations with a career-defining victory, Calzaghe wins.

    However, in terms of beating a superior opponent, Froch wins hands down in my opinion. Lucian Bute is much better than Jeff Lacy. Dominant wins over Brian Magee, Sakio Bika, Glen Johnson, Kabrary Salem and Librado Andrade are better than anything on Jeff Lacy's record by far. Bute was also a champion for five years with over 10 defenses of his title, between 2007 and 2012. It's not really comparable. What's Jeff Lacy's best win? Robin Reid?
    i agree with a lot of your points and i suppose vitally i agree that bute is/was better than lacy at the time of the fights

    bute was massively over rated tho, lots and lots of people had him as the best SMW in the division, and the vast majority had him above froch, he was definately the favourite going into the fight

    on here it seemed that only the die hard froch fans thought froch could win
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    Default Re: Froch vs bute or calzaghe vs lacy

    Bute was more talented and has the better resume however u could argue he was already exposed as a talented but vulnerable fighter by Andrade! Lacy was ruined by calzaghe and i would stake my house that had he never met calzaghe he would still be operating today and would have taken some scalps! Calzaghe is league's above froch in every sense of the word no matter how much u try to pump carls resume up...

    I bet most ppl dumbing lacy down picked him to beat JC at the time. Post calzaghe lacy was a ruined fighter\man! Fact. I am a froch fan too though...

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    Default Re: Froch vs bute or calzaghe vs lacy

    I also rate Calzaghe higher, but Froch is on a nice run himself. Credit is due.

    I was, and am, a big Bute fan. I don't think losing to Froch makes him overrated. Who else has beat Bute? Even if you count Andrade I as a Bute loss, Bute dominated 10/12 rounds in that fight, and avenged the last two rounds with a vicious body shot knockout in their rematch. Froch was, and is, the consensus number two in the division.

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    Default Re: Froch vs bute or calzaghe vs lacy

    LOL VD that is true.

    I was more impressed with Joe beating Kessler because that has stood out as a proper legacy fight as Mikell was a far better fighter. So it would be true to say that Bute may still achieve some success and become a better fighter than Lacy. So too early to say.
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