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Count the clinches in that video. One or two at most. Beautiful. Then watch lennox lewis hang on for dear life against tyson. Pathetic. lol.
Ironic the talk of being kayoed by bums on here, norton after this fight was kayoed in 1 round by a poor man's klitscho gerry cooney! LOL. Just because holmes went life n death with him that somehow de-means the klitschkos!! Quality poster. Dumbass! The klitschkos style wont allow them to fight such fights, they are safety first fighters who control and dominate there oppnents!
Both Earnie Shavers and Gerry Cooney put norton away in the 1st round - not a shock KO due to complacency like Lewis or wlad suffered, but simply a defeat by a better boxer on the night.
188lb Jose Luis Garcia kayoed Norton, in the 8th round too! Garcia put the heavier Norton on the deck in the 1st round and staggered him in the 5th and 7th rounds. In the 8th, Garcia floored Norton again with 15seconds left. He got up again, and Garcia put him down again just as the bell rang. Norton stumbled to his corner and collapsed. He couldn't even crawl back to his corner.
Prime K2 would make mincemeat of norton. Great fight the the holmes/norton one but to use it to demean K2 is just non-sensical. The T.S is clearly halfwitted.
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No matter what anyone says every klit fan ends up in the same place when you mention lennox lewis.
The best, prime klit brother could not dethrone a past it, two loss lennox lewis.
Bring up all the oldies you want and compare how foreman, norton frazier are shorter or have losses, or have bigger feet etc. (all bollocks)
Bottom line is the klits will never have to deal with the type of opposition mentioned at the start of the thread as none of these types of fighters exist today.
The klits RULE this WEAK era and the prime big brother vitali best and greatest fight was his LOSS to weak chin, hugging, canadian/english, fat lennox lewis.
That version of lennox would have beat wlad today and you know its the truth.
Try not to go back to many years to compare fighters to the klit brothers in how well they would do as lennox lewis is all you need to measure their level.
I like the match shown in the video...ask yourself, if Wlad threw 75 punches a round would Ken Norton last 15 rounds with him.
Listen guys the thing that makes great fights aside from the fighters being in shape is the style matchup . The division has no foil for his style or his skill.
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Dumbass. Try taking a fighters entire career into context rather than one fight on 11 days notice. Wlad is the best klit only a mong would suggest otherwise nowadays. Vitali is a H2H monster and one of only a few HW's to be a 3x champ. Lewis is no good he was brutally kayoed by mcall! Your logic. LOLNo matter what anyone says every klit fan ends up in the same place when you mention lennox lewis.
The best, prime klit brother could not dethrone a past it, two loss lennox lewis.
It's not m fault u are dumb enough to have fallen for the nostalgic hype that comes with the so-called 'golden era' of heavyweight boxing when the soviet union fighters weren't even allowed to fight for world titles. Get used to them because they are the first of man! GET USED TO THEM!
Which is just as well because i.e Joe Frazier would be jabbed to death and finished within 7 rounds easily by either klitschko in there pomp and u would be on here calling Joe an overrated can!none of these types of fighters exist today.
Roughy translated: 'I am actually quite dumb'. Vitali i think u will find was winning that fight on points and outlanded lewis in nearly single round. The cut stoppage on 11 days notice wasn't a convincing win. The much anticipated rematch happened when exactly? You're a typical biased jobsworth who overrates their own fighters and gets jealous when other countries dominate boxing hahaa. The only two that could hold up today would probabley be lewis and holyfield and even then it's far from certain as to who would reign supreme if they were all 100%.The klits RULE this WEAK era and the prime big brother vitali best and greatest fight was his LOSS to weak chin, hugging, canadian/english, fat lennox lewis.
I doubt it. He couldn't even keep seljko mavrovic off him for 12 rounds. Wach is much more of a threat than CW Mavrovic and he was utterly schooled. Manny himself said 'wlad at this point is as near invincible as they come'....Try harder.That version of lennox would have beat wlad today and you know its the truth.
So we should measure Wlad against a fighter he never fought and Vk against a fighter he fought with 11 days notice and was stopped on cuts whilst ahead on the cards? Quality poster. I assume we should measure Lewis by Mcall and Wlad by Brewster then! LOL. Try measuring your IQ it should be similar to your shoe size.Try not to go back to many years to compare fighters to the klit brothers in how well they would do as lennox lewis is all you need to measure their level.
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What drivel,Lennox Lewis would destroy Klit.
I think the T.S is confusing exciting fights with ability! Smokin Bert cooper was in numerous fights like the one in the OP. What does that prove? LOL.
Gatti/Ward anyone! Ward was B level at best.
If u want exciting HW fights then go watch:
-Brewster v Liakovich\Krasniqi
-VK v Sanders\Lewis
-Golota v Sanders/Bowe
-Maskaev v Rahman 1 & 2
-Byrd v Golota/Mcline
-Tua v Ibeaubuchi
Etc Because all of those are just as watchable as Norton v Holmes. K2 do not allow there opponents to do what norton did to holmes. They are too good.
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Ha ha. Great comedy. Mong?..how old are you?
What you never seem to grasp is the fact that in the 3rd round lennox threw a punch so vicious it opened up vitalis face!
Lennox did that!
No clash of heads!
Lennox fist!
This is a fight and no matter how great you think vitali fought (which he did do very well) his face could not stand up to lewis punches!
If the fight would have continued and vitali would have lost an eye would you still find some stupid excuse to justify all of this!
This is a younger, fitter, prime vitali.
And everything he threw could not floor lennox.
Give lennox his due and stop living in a fantasy world where everyone is from ukraine and your the brothers fluffer.
Vitali is a true warrior and we can all clearly see that lennox was his toughest opponent of all time that unfortunately he fell short by suffering his first and possibly last tko loss.
Ps:- Lennox avenged all his losses so i dont know how this is relevant to this fight??! Grow up!
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Vitali is the only threat in any era.
Wlad can exist in this era only.
Wlad would have dominated Holmes' era & Tyson's era and the farther back in time we go the smaller and smaller his opponents would be. People like to assume Wlad hasn't beaten any big punchers at all and that he just folds up vs them and that's absolutely ridiculous. At the lowest point in his career Wlad fought the biggest most dangerous puncher (who was undefeated at the time) the division could offer....and Wlad won. Wlad fought David Haye and had 0 issues, Wlad fought Derrick Jefferson who was a big time puncher.
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Wlad also got knocked out by Sanders, Brewster and Puritty. And on Saturday night breifly went to pieces when caught with a punch, like he did against Sam Peter. None of these fighters would be memorable in any era.
So it's very understandable that people won't buy Wlad as a dominate force that would've reigned in any era.
3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.
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And yet another Wlad thread that dabbles in the extremes.
There's arguments on both sides:
Pro-Wlad:
Sans the three KO losses early in his career, he's dispatched everybody they've put in front of him. Is it Wlad's fault the HW division is a bunch of "out-of-shape", "scared-shitless", mediocre bums? He fights whoever they put in front of him. He's never ducked anybody, which in itself is more than other fighters out there today. He has amassed a great record, and he'll end up with HOF numbers by the time he finishes his career. He comes into the ring in good physical shape, which again is something that cannot be said for a good 90% of the blubberbutts out there today. He doesn't talk shit to generate interest in a fight, only to turn around and give a 5% effort (like Haye).
Anti-Wlad:
I don't care what anybody says... he's never been truly tested. There's been no epic fights, with back and forth action, taking as well as dishing out. No one's come to truly fight him. Again... it's not his fault, but he's been only too happy to take advantage of his opponents mediocrity and/or fear. His fights are not aesthetically pleasing to all. Some like his style... but many more don't. He seems to fight down to his opponent's skill level, doing just enough to get the decision, or an ultra-safe knockout.
You see... the thing with Wlad is: I believe has little or no confidence in his ability to take a punch. And he may well be chinny. He's never taken a good punch from a great fighter, and have to fight his way back. The times he was caught early in his career, he never survived the initial KD's. So even at this stage, there's some questions. And his lack of confidence in his chin, makes him fight ultra-safe. Engaging in boring paw-fests like with Sultan. Just the threat of a wayward punch from Sultan was enough to send Wlad into a totally defensive posture, and in the process bore us into a coma. But Sultan was as much, if not more to blame. He was there to try and take the title, something not one of Wlad's opponents seems to remember when they step into that ring.
Sad thing is: time's running out on the window for Wlad to be tested in something even remotely resembling an epic fight. Everyone talks about HW prospects, but they're all too green and a few years away from being good enough to challenge Wlad. And by that time, Wlad will have Father Time as a good reason to bow out.
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