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    Default Re: Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

    And yet another Wlad thread that dabbles in the extremes.
    There's arguments on both sides:

    Pro-Wlad:
    Sans the three KO losses early in his career, he's dispatched everybody they've put in front of him. Is it Wlad's fault the HW division is a bunch of "out-of-shape", "scared-shitless", mediocre bums? He fights whoever they put in front of him. He's never ducked anybody, which in itself is more than other fighters out there today. He has amassed a great record, and he'll end up with HOF numbers by the time he finishes his career. He comes into the ring in good physical shape, which again is something that cannot be said for a good 90% of the blubberbutts out there today. He doesn't talk shit to generate interest in a fight, only to turn around and give a 5% effort (like Haye).

    Anti-Wlad:
    I don't care what anybody says... he's never been truly tested. There's been no epic fights, with back and forth action, taking as well as dishing out. No one's come to truly fight him. Again... it's not his fault, but he's been only too happy to take advantage of his opponents mediocrity and/or fear. His fights are not aesthetically pleasing to all. Some like his style... but many more don't. He seems to fight down to his opponent's skill level, doing just enough to get the decision, or an ultra-safe knockout.


    You see... the thing with Wlad is: I believe has little or no confidence in his ability to take a punch. And he may well be chinny. He's never taken a good punch from a great fighter, and have to fight his way back. The times he was caught early in his career, he never survived the initial KD's. So even at this stage, there's some questions. And his lack of confidence in his chin, makes him fight ultra-safe. Engaging in boring paw-fests like with Sultan. Just the threat of a wayward punch from Sultan was enough to send Wlad into a totally defensive posture, and in the process bore us into a coma. But Sultan was as much, if not more to blame. He was there to try and take the title, something not one of Wlad's opponents seems to remember when they step into that ring.

    Sad thing is: time's running out on the window for Wlad to be tested in something even remotely resembling an epic fight. Everyone talks about HW prospects, but they're all too green and a few years away from being good enough to challenge Wlad. And by that time, Wlad will have Father Time as a good reason to bow out.

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    Default Re: Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

    He got up when Sam Peter knocked him down and he won that fight....but you're saying that doesn't count because

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    Default Re: Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

    Oh it counts. But Sam Peter turned out to be one of the more over-hyped HWs of our time. It reminded me of the pre-Lewis Tua.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Oh it counts. But Sam Peter turned out to be one of the more over-hyped HWs of our time. It reminded me of the pre-Lewis Tua.
    ....not like I called that waaaay back when everyone was so impressed by his KO of Jeremy Williams.


    The point is Wlad at his very lowest psychologically took on the hottest undefeated big time power punching prospect and won when everyone was ready to write him off and even Vitali was calling for Wlad to retire. So let's not play revisionist historian and act like it was "no big deal".

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    Default Re: Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

    Sam Peter was a joke, his performance against Vitali was pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Sam Peter was a joke, his performance against Vitali was pathetic.
    but Wlad didn't fight THAT Sam Peter he fought the one that everyone was amazed at and then later the one that was trying to redeem himself for the shit parade he had vs Vitali.

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    Default Re: Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Sam Peter was a joke, his performance against Vitali was pathetic.
    but Wlad didn't fight THAT Sam Peter he fought the one that everyone was amazed at and then later the one that was trying to redeem himself for the shit parade he had vs Vitali.
    I know that, my point being he was poor to begin with the fat lazy prat.
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    Lennox beat the holyfield and best klit of all time.
    Lennox was the last great heavyweight.
    Wlad and vitali will always rank behind lennox in the hall of fame..and they should be very happy with that..and so should we.

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    Meh. There is such a thing as too much grey. Trying to keep all your options open and hedge your bets. Lyle is consistent in his argument.

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    Default Re: Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Meh. There is such a thing as too much grey. Trying to keep all your options open and hedge your bets. Lyle is consistent in his argument.


    You love Wlad and think he's the best thing since sliced bread..... or you're a hater?
    I'd rather delve in the gray, thanks.


    This isn't about "hedging bets" and "keeping options open".
    It's about having an opinion of a fighter that lies somewhere between a god and a bum.

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    Wlad deserves respect for what he has achieved in this era but if he had Lennox lewis opponents there would be a huge difference in resume.

    Just think what a past prime lennox would have done to prime wlads last opponent.

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    Default Re: Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Wlad deserves respect for what he has achieved in this era but if he had Lennox lewis opponents there would be a huge difference in resume.

    Just think what a past prime lennox would have done to prime wlads last opponent.
    Who is to say if Lennox could have KO'd him you can't assume he would just to support your views

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