Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

[El Kabong]

He got up when Sam Peter knocked him down and he won that fight....but you're saying that doesn't count because

[TitoFan]

Oh it counts. But Sam Peter turned out to be one of the more over-hyped HWs of our time. It reminded me of the pre-Lewis Tua.

[El Kabong]

Oh it counts. But Sam Peter turned out to be one of the more over-hyped HWs of our time. It reminded me of the pre-Lewis Tua.

....not like I called that waaaay back when everyone was so impressed by his KO of Jeremy Williams.


The point is Wlad at his very lowest psychologically took on the hottest undefeated big time power punching prospect and won when everyone was ready to write him off and even Vitali was calling for Wlad to retire. So let's not play revisionist historian and act like it was "no big deal".

[Master]

Sam Peter was a joke, his performance against Vitali was pathetic.

[El Kabong]

Sam Peter was a joke, his performance against Vitali was pathetic.

but Wlad didn't fight THAT Sam Peter he fought the one that everyone was amazed at and then later the one that was trying to redeem himself for the shit parade he had vs Vitali.

[Master]

Sam Peter was a joke, his performance against Vitali was pathetic.

but Wlad didn't fight THAT Sam Peter he fought the one that everyone was amazed at and then later the one that was trying to redeem himself for the shit parade he had vs Vitali.

I know that, my point being he was poor to begin with the fat lazy prat.

[TitoFan]

Lyle, when all you can pull out of the magic hat is Sam Peter to prove your point, you gotta know you're reaching. Wlad hasn't had any epic fights, and you know it. One thing is to defend Wlad to the death... quite another is to ignore facts that jump at you like cheap neon signs in the red light district.

[imp]

Lennox beat the holyfield and best klit of all time.
Lennox was the last great heavyweight.
Wlad and vitali will always rank behind lennox in the hall of fame..and they should be very happy with that..and so should we.

[Beanz]

Meh. There is such a thing as too much grey. Trying to keep all your options open and hedge your bets. Lyle is consistent in his argument.

[TitoFan]

Meh. There is such a thing as too much grey. Trying to keep all your options open and hedge your bets. Lyle is consistent in his argument.

You love Wlad and think he's the best thing since sliced bread..... or you're a hater?
I'd rather delve in the gray, thanks.


This isn't about "hedging bets" and "keeping options open".
It's about having an opinion of a fighter that lies somewhere between a god and a bum.

[imp]

Wlad deserves respect for what he has achieved in this era but if he had Lennox lewis opponents there would be a huge difference in resume.

Just think what a past prime lennox would have done to prime wlads last opponent.

[El Kabong]

Wlad deserves respect for what he has achieved in this era but if he had Lennox lewis opponents there would be a huge difference in resume.

Just think what a past prime lennox would have done to prime wlads last opponent.

Who is to say if Lennox could have KO'd him you can't assume he would just to support your views

[generalbulldog]

An old, fat, washed up Lewis beat Vitali in his prime. Imagine what Lewis at his best would have done to Wlad and Vitali.

I have a feeling Lyle that if Lewis had not fought Vitali, you would have said something along the lines that the Klits would have knocked out Lewis easily. Just a hunch.