Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
Whilst I think benefits can be and are abused, you are living in a country that has been sold down the river. People need something to fall back on when their job has been shipped over to China. It's all very good for investors in that corporation, but the factors of production are sold out. Sure, weed out the rot, but you need a safety net. In a heartless capitalist system, only a minority do very well for themselves, the rest are swimming to stay afloat and with no lifejackets you will see poverty and needless death.

I won't watch the video's as that kind of TV is for simpletons. Along with Fox News and Jerry Springer, I assume you to have a nice array of sources for your views.


Very good points. My comments on some:


"benefits can be and are abused" - Exactly. The system is flawed. Everyone agrees on this. Government economic aid, in whatever form, should be exclusively for those with real needs, not leeching bums. The fact that this does not occur is indicative that the system is flawed, and needs fixing.

"People need something to fall back on when their job has been shipped over to China". - Right again. Employment is the backbone to a productive, healthy society. If a willing, able person cannot find gainful employment and is unable to meet his/her financial obligations, the government should be there to help. This again cannot and should not be abused. The fact that it IS, is indicative the system is flawed. At this juncture, I feel the need to say that Obama did not create unemployment or the outsourcing of jobs. This was a malady way before Obama. It needs to be fixed.

"Sure, weed out the rot, but you need a safety net". - Ideally, a good system will differentiate between the "rot" and the real needy people.

"In a heartless capitalist system, only a minority do very well for themselves" - Of course, you'll never expect the wealthy minority to agree or admit this... but it's nonetheless true. The so-called middle class is getting screwed, are losing their homes, are getting by without adequate healthcare, which is too expensive for the average American.


But once again, this will meet with the "all-or-nothing" mentality. ALL people getting government aid are leeching bums... the only worthy people are the "haves". The "have-nots" aren't worth a damn.