Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

[El Kabong]

Exactly.

Vitali needed lennox.
Lennox didnt need vitali.

Anyway, lets ask this question..lennox had had some great tear ups over the years...since vitali fought lennox has there been any notable fights for vitali since?..

frank bruno vs Wlad would be a another interesting match..two robots going at it.
Bruno wins decision.

Vitali vs Sanders was good albeit a trifle one sided. Vitali absolutely crushed Johnson and Williams. I think the Williams fight was Vitali at the very top of his game. Vitali gave him a thorough beating.

Bruno would get picked apart...sorry, he just was not top class.

[imp]

The gap between vitali and wlad is huge!
Vitali is better than Wlad in every way.

[imp]

Exactly.

Vitali needed lennox.
Lennox didnt need vitali.

Anyway, lets ask this question..lennox had had some great tear ups over the years...since vitali fought lennox has there been any notable fights for vitali since?..

frank bruno vs Wlad would be a another interesting match..two robots going at it.
Bruno wins decision.

Vitali vs Sanders was good albeit a trifle one sided. Vitali absolutely crushed Johnson and Williams. I think the Williams fight was Vitali at the very top of his game. Vitali gave him a thorough beating.

Bruno would get picked apart...sorry, he just was not top class.

Bruno was durable and had better competition at the time than Wlad.
I would consider Wlad and bruno to be in the same class/level.

Put it this way bruno would be the toughest test for Wlad right now as bruno was always in superb condition

[El Kabong]

Bruno was durable and had much better competition than Wlad.
I would consider Wlad and bruno to be in the same class/level.

Well it'll bring erics44 to tears to read that


I see Bruno on par with Golota and Rahman

[imp]

Bruno was durable and had much better competition than Wlad.
I would consider Wlad and bruno to be in the same class/level.

Well it'll bring erics44 to tears to read that


I see Bruno on par with Golota and Rahman

Kabong, im not a big fan of bruno but there styles are very similar.

[El Kabong]

Kabong, im not a big fan of bruno but there styles are very similar.

Meh....I always saw a link between Rahman and Bruno. The long arms, the big power, the pummeling from Lennox Lewis. But hey, you see what you see.

[TitoFan]

The gap between vitali and wlad is huge!
Vitali is better than Wlad in every way.

Particularly in two areas: chin and guts.

[Violent Demise]

Exactly.

Vitali needed lennox.
Lennox didnt need vitali.

Anyway, lets ask this question..lennox had had some great tear ups over the years...since vitali fought lennox has there been any notable fights for vitali since?..

frank bruno vs Wlad would be a another interesting match..two robots going at it.
Bruno wins decision.

Vitali vs Sanders was good albeit a trifle one sided. Vitali absolutely crushed Johnson and Williams. I think the Williams fight was Vitali at the very top of his game. Vitali gave him a thorough beating.

Bruno would get picked apart...sorry, he just was not top class.

Bruno was durable and had better competition at the time than Wlad.
I would consider Wlad and bruno to be in the same class/level.

Put it this way bruno would be the toughest test for Wlad right now as bruno was always in superb condition

Wlad is clearly a couple of classes above Bruno. The lasting memory of Bruno is that of a coward. Wlad might fight scared when he's in the ring. Bruno is scared walking to the ring. It was pathetic how terrified he was going into the Tyson rematch. He crossed himself about 20 times. Than went out and folded like a fucking lawn chair. Didn't even put up a fight

Lamont Brewster and Corrie Sanders are 2 of Wlad's opponents who would beat Bruno. And with Bruno's pitiful stamina, against Chris Byrd and Eddie Chambers it's a 50-50 fight.

[imp]

Exactly.

Vitali needed lennox.
Lennox didnt need vitali.

Anyway, lets ask this question..lennox had had some great tear ups over the years...since vitali fought lennox has there been any notable fights for vitali since?..

frank bruno vs Wlad would be a another interesting match..two robots going at it.
Bruno wins decision.

Vitali vs Sanders was good albeit a trifle one sided. Vitali absolutely crushed Johnson and Williams. I think the Williams fight was Vitali at the very top of his game. Vitali gave him a thorough beating.

Bruno would get picked apart...sorry, he just was not top class.

Bruno was durable and had better competition at the time than Wlad.
I would consider Wlad and bruno to be in the same class/level.

Put it this way bruno would be the toughest test for Wlad right now as bruno was always in superb condition

Wlad is clearly a couple of classes above Bruno. The lasting memory of Bruno is that of a coward. Wlad might fight scared when he's in the ring. Bruno is scared walking to the ring. It was pathetic how terrified he was going into the Tyson rematch. He crossed himself about 20 times. Than went out and folded like a fucking lawn chair. Didn't even put up a fight

Lamont Brewster and Corrie Sanders are 2 of Wlad's opponents who would beat Bruno. And with Bruno's pitiful stamina, against Chris Byrd and Eddie Chambers it's a 50-50 fight.

Tyson can strike fear into any man. Let alone a guy thats beaten you already fresh out of prison.

Styles make fights and prime bruno vs prime vlad would be torture to watch but it goes either way.

[Fenster]

There's a difference between absolutely shitting yourself, especially against a man that's already battered you, and being a "coward"

You can't practice handling pressure

[TitoFan]

Exactly.

Vitali needed lennox.
Lennox didnt need vitali.

Anyway, lets ask this question..lennox had had some great tear ups over the years...since vitali fought lennox has there been any notable fights for vitali since?..

frank bruno vs Wlad would be a another interesting match..two robots going at it.
Bruno wins decision.

Vitali vs Sanders was good albeit a trifle one sided. Vitali absolutely crushed Johnson and Williams. I think the Williams fight was Vitali at the very top of his game. Vitali gave him a thorough beating.

Bruno would get picked apart...sorry, he just was not top class.

Bruno was durable and had better competition at the time than Wlad.
I would consider Wlad and bruno to be in the same class/level.

Put it this way bruno would be the toughest test for Wlad right now as bruno was always in superb condition

Wlad is clearly a couple of classes above Bruno. The lasting memory of Bruno is that of a coward. Wlad might fight scared when he's in the ring. Bruno is scared walking to the ring. It was pathetic how terrified he was going into the Tyson rematch. He crossed himself about 20 times. Than went out and folded like a fucking lawn chair. Didn't even put up a fight

Lamont Brewster and Corrie Sanders are 2 of Wlad's opponents who would beat Bruno. And with Bruno's pitiful stamina, against Chris Byrd and Eddie Chambers it's a 50-50 fight.

Bruno couldn't have been worse than Bruce "Louganis" Seldon.

[imp]

The gap between vitali and wlad is huge!
Vitali is better than Wlad in every way.

Particularly in two areas: chin and guts.

If Wlad had these we wouldnt need a vitali. And he would be the man. Period.

[Beanflicker]

I think Vitali could. He had a real sloppy, brutal brawl with Lennox. But I guess there is the cut issue.

Wlad I don't think has the chin or the demeanor to slug it out like that, however.

[Gandalf]

Wlad is rubbish compared to Vitali. Vitali would beat him all over the ring. He would take one and land two and Wlad would cower in his corner.

That is a great champion? Not at all. Vitali is very good though.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

I stated Lewis considered retirement prior to the Vitali fight. Which is a 100% proven fact. You said this was nonsense and produced a quote from Manny Steward talking about Roy Jones in 2003.

Saying he may think about retiring and actually doing it are 2 different things! Please post me the link in which lewis stated just before the VK fight that this would be his last ever fight! I never really heard much talk of lewis retiring in 03. The guy was linear champ and had just fought the mega fight with tyson.

It certainly wasn't an immediate retirement he was pondering and by the talk of he and his team he was on for another couple of years! By march 2003 there were 2 fights he and his team had in the pipeline! Tyson and Jones! Add the mandatory Kirk Johnson which he was scheduled to fight and that 3! Up steps VK on 11 days notice following Johnson pulling out and exit LL!

That was before that signed tyson rematch and before a Jones fight that manny and he were chasing! LL then goes onto promise a rematch in the ring due to the manner of the fight and crowd reaction so that's 3 fights in LL's immediate future by he & his teams own admission. Four in total that post date your link. That is not the talk of a retiring fighter. Four fights post dating your link!

I couldn't careless about your personal opinion of Lewis. What happened after the Vitali fight is irrelevant

It is the entire crux of the matter.

Why was he whining about tyson not rematching after a one sided first encounter yet agrees to give VK a rematch and doesn't? If he was seriously considering retirement why would manny be making statements like the Jones one? He wasn't retiring was he because he was fighting Johson a few months after your link? And i cant see him bowing out after a Kirk Johnson fight!! Your link stated he wanted the fights he could get up for! Well considering VK was hustling him on 11 days notice in a barn burner and in which he won on cuts (and let me add...looked very sheepish in the post fight interview after using the back of his gloves to aggravate the cut LOL) VK was the very fighter Lewis was whining about that he needed! The WBC then put him on the spot after months of lewis prevaricating with talk like ' I will bust him up' ' I will give him a rematch' etc and he retires rather than lose belt #2 favouring a tyson rematch! All very dodgy...

In the Lewis-Tyson post fight interview Lewis stated "I'm like fine wine, I get better with age"

In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I will keep fighting for many more years"

Anyway ive had my say and proved my point.