Seth Mitchell vs. Johnathan Banks

[El Kabong]

Arreola's tough and can bang. But so can Seth. Arreola's got the experience edge, if you will. But I personally don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he'd beat Mitchell. I will tell you one thing. I expected a bit more from Arreola when he fought Vitali. He was being brought up to be the "next great hope" and he's just slinked back into the shadows of the Klitschkos. He's peaked, while someone like Mitchell is still on the rise. It would be interesting.

Seth Mitchell just got hammered out in 2 rounds by a former cruiserweight. I'm not going to tell you he's a crap fighter but he ain't "on the rise" anymore. If any American fighter can beat Arreola I say it's probably still Eddie Chambers because the guy uses defense properly and never plans on getting a KO. Banks is better than we thought, Mitchell is not who we thought he was and at his age it's going to be hard to rebound from that loss. Arreola is a seasoned pro and guys like Wilder and Hanks aren't ready for him yet...perhaps Franklin Lawrence would have an outside shot at him but hell you never know.

I still say Banks vs Adamek II is a GREAT fight to make right now

[Rantcatrat]

Arreola's tough and can bang. But so can Seth. Arreola's got the experience edge, if you will. But I personally don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he'd beat Mitchell. I will tell you one thing. I expected a bit more from Arreola when he fought Vitali. He was being brought up to be the "next great hope" and he's just slinked back into the shadows of the Klitschkos. He's peaked, while someone like Mitchell is still on the rise. It would be interesting.

Seth Mitchell just got hammered out in 2 rounds by a former cruiserweight. I'm not going to tell you he's a crap fighter but he ain't "on the rise" anymore. If any American fighter can beat Arreola I say it's probably still Eddie Chambers because the guy uses defense properly and never plans on getting a KO. Banks is better than we thought, Mitchell is not who we thought he was and at his age it's going to be hard to rebound from that loss. Arreola is a seasoned pro and guys like Wilder and Hanks aren't ready for him yet...perhaps Franklin Lawrence would have an outside shot at him but hell you never know.

I still say Banks vs Adamek II is a GREAT fight to make right now

Bermaine Stiverne is pretty seasoned too. The fight between Stiverne and Arreola is intriguing. If Arreola beats him, I would like to see him face Helenius, Fury, or Price.

[El Kabong]

Bermaine Stiverne is pretty seasoned too. The fight between Stiverne and Arreola is intriguing. If Arreola beats him, I would like to see him face Helenius, Fury, or Price.

Oh yeah, that's a great matchup. On paper it could really be a barn burner, fight of the year candidate, but given the fact that it's 2 heavyweights and 2 heavyweights who can be heavy or not box well on occasion I'm trying not to over sell it but it SHOULD be a very solid matchup and one that I want to see.

[TitoFan]

Arreola's tough and can bang. But so can Seth. Arreola's got the experience edge, if you will. But I personally don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he'd beat Mitchell. I will tell you one thing. I expected a bit more from Arreola when he fought Vitali. He was being brought up to be the "next great hope" and he's just slinked back into the shadows of the Klitschkos. He's peaked, while someone like Mitchell is still on the rise. It would be interesting.

Seth Mitchell just got hammered out in 2 rounds by a former cruiserweight. I'm not going to tell you he's a crap fighter but he ain't "on the rise" anymore. If any American fighter can beat Arreola I say it's probably still Eddie Chambers because the guy uses defense properly and never plans on getting a KO. Banks is better than we thought, Mitchell is not who we thought he was and at his age it's going to be hard to rebound from that loss. Arreola is a seasoned pro and guys like Wilder and Hanks aren't ready for him yet...perhaps Franklin Lawrence would have an outside shot at him but hell you never know.

I still say Banks vs Adamek II is a GREAT fight to make right now

My bad. Admittedly don't keep up with the HW's like I used to, you know.... back when it was a good division.

[El Kabong]

My bad. Admittedly don't keep up with the HW's like I used to, you know.... back when it was a good division.

Fine then don't watch it. Some people like the heavyweight division some people don't but what I can't stand is your endless bitching about it which you being the dumb little bastard you are will no doubt take pride in but you go right ahead flaunt your stupidity nothing has stopped you so far.

[TitoFan]

My bad. Admittedly don't keep up with the HW's like I used to, you know.... back when it was a good division.

Fine then don't watch it. Some people like the heavyweight division some people don't but what I can't stand is your endless bitching about it which you being the dumb little bastard you are will no doubt take pride in but you go right ahead flaunt your stupidity nothing has stopped you so far.

What bug suddenly crawled up YOUR ass, dickhead? I don't like the HW division today, so I'm a "dumb little bastard"? Since when are we all supposed to like the HW division and bow at the Klitschko statue like you do? Do me a favor and shove your condescending personality right up your ass. You've proven your extremist personality at every turn so far, so no need to pour gasoline on the fire. Others might tiptoe around you because of your abrasiveness. Not me.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

I bet if K2 were two black ghetto americans the ppl who dumb down the division would be all over the division! It's a cliche but it's also true.

Vent your frutrations on Mitchell not K2. LOL. It's not K2's fault that ppl were actually dumb enough to believe that skin pigmentation was an indicator of the talent that lay beneath!

Borders open (approximately in the year 2000) and Eastern-Europeans enter the arena.

Within a decade Americans lose all their titles to Eastern-Europeans. The americans will never be as dominant on such a consistant basis ever again because they actually have worldwide opposition these days. Just get used to them and stop hating because u sound more pathetic as each year passes.

[Rantcatrat]

I bet if K2 were two black ghetto americans the ppl who dumb down the division would be all over the division! It's a cliche but it's also true.

Vent your frutrations on Mitchell not K2. LOL. It's not K2's fault that ppl were actually dumb enough to believe that skin pigmentation was an indicator of the talent that lay beneath!

Borders open (approximately in the year 2000) and Eastern-Europeans enter the arena.

Within a decade Americans lose all their titles to Eastern-Europeans. The americans will never be as dominant on such a consistant basis ever again because they actually have worldwide opposition these days. Just get used to them and stop hating because u sound more pathetic as each year passes.

Be fair: it's a mixture of the gates opening to Eastern Europe and the fact that big American athletes play football or basketball. It's not like the Eastern Europeans are dominating lower weight classes. Are there more top Eastern Europeans in lower weight classes than there used to be? Sure. However, Americans still have a solid presence.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Oh that old one. Well if that's the case then the lower weight classes in boxing are losing out to european football or 'soccer' as the yanks name it!

So by that logic Wlad can thank his lucky stars that Lebron james prefers not to get his face punched for a living and Mayweather is undefeated because the Lionel messi' of the world prefer spot kicking?

LW 2 time Olympic gold medallist Vasyl Lomachenko is evidence of whats to come in the future in the lower divisions too IMO. Some of the greatest amateurs ever were smaller EE's.

Laszlo Papp
Boris Lagutin
Aleksei Tishchenko (still active)
Oleg Saitov (The greatest amateur boxer of the 90's)
Jerzy Kulej
Vladimir Yengibaryan

Imagine had these guys turned pro? More Tszyu's and Lomachenko's will come trust me! Problem is these guys are not westernised and don't speak english! A lot of them shun americana too. It's more to do with culture rather than the lack of talent in the smaller fighters! K2 are the catalyst.

[Spicoli]

I bet if K2 were two black ghetto americans the ppl who dumb down the division would be all over the division! It's a cliche but it's also true.

Vent your frutrations on Mitchell not K2. LOL. It's not K2's fault that ppl were actually dumb enough to believe that skin pigmentation was an indicator of the talent that lay beneath!

Borders open (approximately in the year 2000) and Eastern-Europeans enter the arena.

Within a decade Americans lose all their titles to Eastern-Europeans. The americans will never be as dominant on such a consistant basis ever again because they actually have
worldwide opposition these days. Just get used to them and stop hating because u sound more pathetic as each year passes.

Why the Hell can I picture you stroking a white cat sitting in a highback back stainless steel chair and breaking into biobolical laughter as you type this. Black ghetto Americans...ffs

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

NFL! NBA! LOL. Again thats like saying all the best MW's are playing in the champions league! Laughable! Also ask yourselves why america had it so good for so long? Could it be that there main protaganist's i.e Soviets and Cubans fought under amateur rules?

Ironic it is talked about on a thread concerning Seth mitchell a former american Football player who has just been brutally spanked by a part time trainer and CW! (Not even a noted CW either!) LOL.

The reason there has yet to be a Vitali or a Wlad in the lower divisions is because 2X olympic gold medallist/World amatueur gold winner Oleg saitov chose not to turn pro! And 2X olympic gold winner Vasyl Lomachenko is yet to fight proffessional!

-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Saitov

-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasyl_Lomachenko

The top 2 HW's of the 00's are eastern european! Lomachenko is considered to be the best amateur of his generation and saitov was the best amateur of the 90's! K2 chose to turn pro. Saitov didn't! All in good time.....